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Help please - Frederick Lee 2nd Regt of Foot

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:54 am
by KeithLee
I'm looking for any more info on this guy, or generally about the Regimental history.

Born 1840 in White Waltham, enlisted 30 Sep 1859 into 2nd Regt of Foot and then transferred (not sure of when) into 105th Regt of Foot (Madras Light Infantry). Discharged 1878.

Any help appreciated, especially any historical data on where he would most likely have served....

Many thanks

Re: Help please - Frederick Lee 2nd Regt of Foot

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:24 pm
by brunes08
If you 'google' 2nd Regiment of Foot' you will find lots of useful sites. They will give you an idea of where the Regiment served, including South Africa and the Far East. Whether your ancestor served overseas is impossible to say unless you can track down his service record.

Re: Help please - Frederick Lee 2nd Regt of Foot

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:40 pm
by peter kent
I think you'll find Frederick Lee's service record is on Findmypast.

Re: Help please - Frederick Lee 2nd Regt of Foot

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:12 am
by KeithLee
Thanks guys.

I don't have a FMP subscription - what sort of info will it hold, or am I better just getting a printout from or visiting the NA?

Re: Help please - Frederick Lee 2nd Regt of Foot

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:01 pm
by AdrianB38
Given that you know his enlistment date, regiments and discharge date - err, where did you get that from? Because that's the sort of stuff that you get in the FMP service record (including the exact transfer date between the 2nd and 105th). There's some 6 or 7 pages on FMP (with a page for a similarly named militia man who clearly can't be him). There's also basic genealogical data - where born, where he's going to live on discharge, etc. So it looks like, whether you realised it or not, you already have some of this data - in which case a trip to Kew to fill in the gaps might suffice.

Re: Help please - Frederick Lee 2nd Regt of Foot

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:34 pm
by ianbee
I wouldn't say the WO 97 army pension record of Frederick Lee is packed full of gems, but you'll obviously want to get hold of it.
If you can't access findmypast at your local library, you could just wait and hope they will have another free weekend. They often do in November for Remembrance Weekend. Even if it were only for military records, that's what you need.

There's also a record for him on findmypast from TNA in WO 121
And ancestry have indexed a record for Frederick Lee, 1664, with the wrong birthplace, is it from WO 117? Can't find it now! Will be viewed only on Fold3 though.
Ian

Re: Help please - Frederick Lee 2nd Regt of Foot

PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:32 am
by ianbee
ianbee wrote:And ancestry have indexed a record for Frederick Lee, 1664, with the wrong birthplace, is it from WO 117? Can't find it now! Will be viewed only on Fold3 though.
Ian

Name: Frederick Lee
Pension Admission or Examination Age: 38
Birth Year: abt 1840
Birth Place: Barony, Glasgow
Pension Admission or Examination Date: 5 Nov 1878
Regiment: 105th Foot
Rank: Pte
Regimental Number: 1664
Source: Royal Hospital Chelsea: Length of Service Pensions, Admission Books; Class: WO 117; Piece Number: 29

Everything else is right. How do ancestry get from White Waltham to Barony, Glasgow?
Info on WO 117 here
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.u ... s/r/C14325
According to this the registers could be packed with detail! They are not on findmypast, as far as I can tell.
Ian

Re: Help please - Frederick Lee 2nd Regt of Foot

PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:56 am
by AdrianB38
Frederick Lee's birthplace is already incorrectly written in the original papers - his blue medical form has him born in White Waltham, Lancashire.... And that's the original!

So Barony might be a terminological inexactitude in the original rather than a creative Ancestry index. Or not.

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Re: Help please - Frederick Lee 2nd Regt of Foot

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:43 am
by KeithLee
Thanks for the replies guys.

The info I already had came from someone who did some research for me, as I was spending too much time blundering around the various websites not really knowing what I was doing, with it costing me a fortune in various subscriptions - and, being a novice, I was getting too many of these mismatched details that I didn't have the experience to know what to do with (ie - ignore or trust)

But all your info is much appreciated and I really think a trip in person to see the archives will be the best bet - am I right in saying you can get help once there?

Re: Help please - Frederick Lee 2nd Regt of Foot

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:02 am
by brunes08
If you are planning a visit to the National Archives (or any archive for that matter) check the website first. You will need to take some forms of ID with you. Be prepared for a little wait while you are 'processed' before you can access records. Yes, there are help desks if you need assistance.