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Re: John Jennings

PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:45 pm
by elsabels
Re visiting my notes, I think you have one John Jennings with a wife & Mistress who assumed his name for the sake of decency???

John b 1869 s/o Thomas J
married
Helena Louise /Eleanor b 1866 died 1915

issue:

Emily 1892
May 1896
John Thomas 1897
Edith 1902
Elsa 1907

John b 1869 & ' mistress' Kate Maria there is no suggestion on the 1911 census that the couple are married
issue:
John Frederick 1899
Kate Lilian 1903
Emily 1905
Rosaline 1907
Harry 1910

Have you looked at the signatures on the 1911 census?

Re: John Jennings

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:55 pm
by ianbee
You could compare the handwriting on both schedules in 1911.
There is no absolute guarantee of course, despite the signatures, that the head of household actually wrote them out.
In fact, just looking at them, you might think that they were not both written by the same hand.

But there is one interesting thing, might it be a giveaway?
Both schedules have "Pianoforte Maker journeyman" written in the wrong place, at the top, where the questions and instructions are.
Off the top of my head, I can't remember ever seeing that before!

Looking at the 1911 census again, I see that Bertie and Emily Bradshaw are already at 42 Westville, in two rooms.

elsabels wrote:issue:
Emily 1892
May 1896
John Thomas 1897
Edith 1902
Elsa 1907

Emily Amelia, born 1891
May Louisa, born 1894
John James Thomas, born 1896
Edith Lilian, born 1901
Elsa is Elsie Mary Hilda, born 1906

elsabels wrote:John b 1869 & ' mistress' Kate Maria there is no suggestion on the 1911 census that the couple are married

It says that they are married. Though we know they didn't marry until 1917!

Re: John Jennings

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:11 pm
by ianbee
dick reedy wrote:Although John Frederick was born in 1899 it would appear his parents married 26/3/1917 in Islington Registry Office, living at 27 Milford Road. John's (senior) father is named as Thomas John Jennings (deceased).

What happened to Kate? Where did they live after the war?
And where was Milford Road?

Attaching those bits of the 1911 schedules where Pianoforte Maker Journeyman has been written up top.
On the Hammersmith one it seems to be misspelt when repeated in the proper place (by the enumerator perhaps?)
Ian

Re: John Jennings

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:38 pm
by ianbee
ianbee wrote:What happened to Kate? Where did they live after the war?

To answer my own question, they ended up in Wethersfield, Essex, where Kate came from.

dick reedy wrote:When John (senior) died 2/4/1934 his age is given as 66 by son John Frederick.

Death reg
June 1934 Braintree 4a 945
Jennings, John
age 66

Buried at St Mary Magdalen, Wethersfield, 7 April 1934 (NBI)

1919, 1920 electoral registers have a John Jennings and a Kate Jennings at the Plough Inn, Radwinter. Gone by spring 1921. Is that them?

John + Kate Jennings are certainly in Wethersfield by 1922.
1939 Register
5 Council Houses, Wethersfield
Kate Jennings, born 31 Aug 73, Widowed
Florence Jennings, born 11 July 14
William B Brydon, born 17 Nov 31 (school)

Florence was incapacitated, and there is an item about her in the Essex Chronicle, 20 October 1944.