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Re: Mary Ann WEEDEN

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:29 pm
by SDV
ianbee

Oh dear, why do things always get so complicated.

Well it would appear that Constance Ruth Humpfrey married Leonard Alfred HODGSON in 1911 [Q3 1911 Kensington 1a 410].

Moreover, according to the 1919 Electoral Register the following were living at 387 Portobello Road: Leonard Alfred HODGSON, Constance Ruth HODGSON and Mary Ann Humpfrey.

Constance and Leonard were still there in 1926, but no Mary Ann Humpfrey. Although there was a Charles William Burchett and a Mary Ann Burchett!

Amazingly, there is a marriage in Sep 1919 between a Charles W Burchett and Mary A MARDELL [Q3 1919 Kensington 1a 563].

It looks like Mary Ann died in 1927. Mary Ann BURCHETT d Q1 1927 Kensington 1a 339, aged 67.

What do you think?

Re: Mary Ann WEEDEN

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:30 pm
by SDV
ianbee - our posts crossed.

But it all seems to be working out!

Re: Mary Ann WEEDEN

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:35 pm
by ianbee
Hi
It's pretty amazing. But throw in that newspaper report and it does look like it is your lady!
Ian

Re: Mary Ann WEEDEN

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:05 am
by SDV
There would appear to be a number of stories in the West London Observer. From all accounts Charles William Burchett was a drunk, violent and a thief!

We seem to have solved Mary Ann's death, but her birth still remains a mystery.

Re: Mary Ann WEEDEN

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:47 am
by elsabels
Probate granted to George JARY!

Per my notes Eldest daughter Florence A married George J JARY ( Jeary) in 1895

John A MArdell died q2 1917 Edmonton v 2a p619

In 1911 he is living with son John S stating he is a widower

Good detective work ianbee ;)

Re: Mary Ann WEEDEN

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:51 am
by ianbee
elsabels wrote:Probate granted to George JARY!

Per my notes Eldest daughter Florence A married George J JARY ( Jeary) in 1895

Well spotted!

Re: Mary Ann WEEDEN

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:25 pm
by elsabels
Tidying up
Name: Constance Ruth Hamphrey
Baptism Date: 13 Feb 1900
Baptism Place: Ladbroke Grove St Michael and All Angels, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Father: John Robert Hamphrey
Mother: Mary Ann Hamphrey both of Portobello Road

1911 has a child desc as daughter of Mary & John Rbt b 1908 Ivy

HUMPHREY, IVY CLARISSA MARGARET -
GRO Reference: 1908 M Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 109

Marriage
Name: Ivy Clarrisa Margarette Humphres
Marriage Age: 19
Birth Date: abt 1907
Marriage Date: 14 Nov 1926
Marriage Place: St Michael and All Angels, Ladbroke Grove, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Father: John Humphres deceased Leather Salesman
Spouse: Alfred William Callaghan
Witness Leonard Alfred Hodgson

Name: Ivy Clarissa M Callaghan
Death Age: 93
Birth Date: 11 Jan 1908
Registration Date: Dec 2001
Registration district: Bournemouth Dorset
Register Number: B28D District and Subdistrict: 4271B

Re: Mary Ann WEEDEN

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:59 pm
by SDV
Another confirmation of the connection. The informant on the death certificate of John Albert Mardell's death certificate was one F A JARY (daughter) of 72 Scotland Green, Tottenham.

I think we now know what happened to Mary Ann Weeden, though it came as a big surprise.

The next problem is to try and sort out her birth. Not only can't I find her birth certificate, I also can't find her own baptism or the baptisms of her siblings.

P.S. Just one other nagging question. Is Ivy the daughter of Mary Ann? Or is she the daughter of Constance? I believe the birth registration conveniently shows the former, but doesn't necessarily mean anything.

P.S.S. Sorry but another nagging question. When did John Robert HUMPHREY die? Clearly after the 1911 census and before 1926, as he was described as deceased on Ivy's marriage certificate. Presumably, also before Mary Ann's marriage in 1919, as the newly weds seem to move in to the house he had shared with Mary Ann.

Re: Mary Ann WEEDEN

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:52 pm
by elsabels
[P.S. Just one other nagging question. Is Ivy the daughter of Mary Ann? Or is she the daughter of Constance? I believe the birth registration conveniently shows the former, but doesn't necessarily mean anything.]

My gut feeling is it is the daughter of Constance, taken in as the child of Mary & JRH, birth entry may reveal more

Re: Mary Ann WEEDEN

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:04 pm
by elsabels
Birth entry for the child b Frederick Robert b circa 1843 shown on 1851 census
WEEDEN, FREDERICK ROBERT RIVERS
GRO Reference: 1842 S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 02 Page 44
WEEDEN, ROBERT RIVERS
GRO Reference: 1844 D Quarter in WHITECHAPEL UNION Volume 02 Page 571

The 4th reply indicates that birth entry were found on the GRO search site for all except Mary Ann