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Was my Grandfather really a professional boxer?

Postby mcale » Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:07 am

Family lore has it that my grandfather, Ernest Albert Cale (1892-1947), was a professional boxer who fought in the US under the name "Kid Daly". The story goes that he won his fight(s) in the US and came home with enough money to buy his mother a sweet shop.

We have one photo of him, and he certainly had a boxer's build! He served in WW1 in the Royal Field Artillery as a bombadier (war service 1915-18). He was married in 1917 to Elsie Woodall. In his non-military career, he was a waterproof paper maker. Both he and Elsie lived their whole lives in Ladywood or Winson Green, Birmingham. They had at least seven children. I have not been able to find any information about his boxing career and can't confirm whether there is any truth in the stories of his boxing bouts abroad.

Can anyone help with suggestions of places to look for information about Ernie Cale's supposed career as a boxer?

Many thanks -
Michelle Cale
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Re: Was my Grandfather really a professional boxer?

Postby keldon » Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:44 am

I found a ‘Kid’ Daly of St Louis in 1903 which clearly isn’t him because of his age.
He may also be the same one mentioned here in 1908.
http://news.google.co.uk/archivesearch? ... lnav=hist0
http://news.google.co.uk/archivesearch? ... od&btnG=Go

There’s a Kid Daly from Washington mentioned in the Washington Herald of 20.3.1913
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/ ... /seq-9.pdf

In the New York Tribune of 20.4.1921 there’s an advert for a forthcoming bout.
“Bouts hereabouts
Woodhaven S. C. Terry Davis vs. K.O. Kid Daly. 12 rounds.”
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/ ... seq-15.pdf
And
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/ ... seq-13.pdf

Try searching the newspapers on Chronicling America with variations of his real name and see what comes up.
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/
Keldon

historyhouse.co.uk
History of Essex
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Re: Was my Grandfather really a professional boxer?

Postby mcale » Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:41 pm

Keith, Thanks for the reference to the Chronicling America website. I'll take a good look, as you suggest.
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Re: Was my Grandfather really a professional boxer?

Postby mcale » Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:26 pm

I checked the Chronicling America website, without luck. I have also searched at http://www.boxrec.com, which is a boxing archive website. There are a couple of Kid Daly's mentioned, but they are all said to be US residents. Any other ideas? Thanks. Michelle
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Re: Was my Grandfather really a professional boxer?

Postby mscale » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:43 pm

Since posting last, I checked in with Birmingham City Archive and unfortunately they don't have any records relating to boxing or boxing clubs in the city. So I think I have reached a dead end, unless anyone has any other ideas.
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Re: Was my Grandfather really a professional boxer?

Postby mscale » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:55 pm

From time to time, I come back to this question about my grandfather's boxing career. I have yet to find anything relating to it, either in the army or in civilian life. He was a gunner in the Royal Field Artillery from 1915-18, but I don't know in which battery or in which location he served. I am posting again in the hopes that there might be new ideas or sources available, and welcome ideas.
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