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Please can you date this photo?

Postby diggerdi » Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:36 am

Hi, this is my first post here, hope I do it right! I think this photo is of my 2 x great granddad, Andrew Shaw. What I would like to know is a possible date for it so I could tell his age. He was born in 1841 and died in 1908. It's difficult to tell how old he is - could be 20s, 30s or 40s.
[link=http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff162/diggerdi/AndrewShawyoungbw.jpg]http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff162/diggerdi/AndrewShawyoungbw.jpg[/link]

This other photo is definitely Andrew in his later years. Looking at the eyes, especially, I am sure it is the same man.

[link=http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff162/diggerdi/AndrewShaw.jpg]http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff162/diggerdi/AndrewShaw.jpg[/link]

Many thanks for your help

Diane
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RE: Please can you date this photo?

Postby eurogordi » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:20 am

I don't claim to be an expert, but I would date the first one as around 1870-1880 based on the photograph background which is very similar to those on my own family photographs from this time.

As for the second photo, I would say between 1895 and 1900 - again based on similar photo's in my own collection.

Hope this is of some help.
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RE: Please can you date this photo?

Postby Rebecca Arnold » Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:06 pm


[quote]ORIGINAL: diggerdi

Hi, this is my first post here, hope I do it right!  I think this photo is of my 2 x great granddad, Andrew Shaw.  What I would like to know is a possible date for it so I could tell his age.  He was born in 1841 and died in 1908.  It's difficult to tell how old he is - could be 20s, 30s or 40s.
[link=http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff162/diggerdi/AndrewShawyoungbw.jpg]http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff162/diggerdi/AndrewShawyoungbw.jpg[/link]

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The cut of the man’s coat would place this photograph in the 1860s, probably the second half of that decade. However, it is quite ill fitting, which may suggest it is secondhand, and therefore slightly later. His full beard means that the photograph is definitely post Crimean War, and again suggests 1860s. The most notable aspect of his dress is his lack of a collar - this is unusual. Could he have been a clergyman? Although he does not wear a dog collar, this is one possibility to explain his lack of neckwear, and the high-buttoned waistcoat looks more like a clerical than a fashionable one. ‘Low church’ clergy often had facial hair and dressed more like layman than their ‘high church’ equivalents, who presented a more gentlemanly appearance.
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RE: Please can you date this photo?

Postby diggerdi » Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:53 pm

Hi Rebecca, thanks for the reply. He was a Methodist lay preacher and Sunday school teacher, but I don't think lay preachers wore clerical clothes.

His job was foreman platelayer on the railway and I did wonder if this could be his working uniform - not sure if railway workers had uniform in the 1800's.

Many thanks for your time in looking at this.

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