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Re: Hannah CONNELLY

Postby SDV » Mon May 11, 2020 11:06 pm

Thanks for 1901 census info. FMP actually has her as Mary Ann King, born Gibraltar in 1833. I would have found her if I hadn't searched too closely on her real age! I should know better.

Thomas Connolly (1849-1889) died in 1889 in Edmonton Workhouse of congestion/bronchitis. His mother was the informant.

Catherine (1850-1872) married my Great Grandfather in 1868 and died in January 1872 of enteric fever.

James (1852-?) was born in York. He was last recorded for sure in 1861 living with the family in Cheltenham. There is a possible record in 1891 in Leeds (RG12 3690 10 2). I don't know what happened to him.

Simon (1854-?) was born in Leeds. He married Susannah BERRIT in 1874 in Hornsey and in 1881 the pair were living in Islington. Then it all gets a but difficult. There are numerous possible Workhouse admissions for both him and/or his wife, but it is difficult to be certain which ones relate to him and which to some other person. So again I don't know what happened to him.

Hannah/Anna (1859-?) is documented above and her fate remains unknown.

Mary Ann (1861-?) married George Crouch in December 1881 in Tottenham. Following his death she married John Kennard in 1894 in Edmonton. It is possible - I'm still awaiting a certificate - that following his death in 1911, she married a George GOWER in 1916 in Edmonton. Her last definite record is the 1911 census and her death remains unconfirmed. She MAY have died as Mary Ann GOWER in 1917 in Edmonton.

Jane Frances (1864-1948) married William JOHNSON in 1884 in Edmonton. She died in 1948 in Holloway.

George KING - Mary Ann's only child that I know of with John KING - was born in 1870 and died shortly after in 1871.

With regard to Samuel BOYD(E), it could be him. The regiment is definitely correct. The family tree on Ancestry mentions that he is in Nova Scotia and married to Margaret. But Mary Ann's birth certificate records her parents as Samuel BOYD, a Private in the 12th Foot, and Catherine, which doesn't fit. There is a possible marriage in 1825 in Barony, Glasgow of a Samuel BOYD to a Catherine GORDON. So I'm not sure. There seem to be rather a lot of Samuel Boyds in the army.

However, progress is being made.

I think the next step is to find Mary Ann in 1841 and/or 1851. The first would be interesting as she might well still be with her own family, i.e. Samuel and Catherine. The latter as she should by then be with James and have two children, Thomas and Catherine. In the process, we might locate her marriage to James. Obviously it would also be nice to discover the fates of her children, whose deaths are still a mystery.
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Re: Hannah CONNELLY

Postby MoVidger » Tue May 12, 2020 12:58 pm

So are the Connelly family your blood relatives, or is Catherine simply your ancestor's first wife? :?

If your search widens to any siblings for MAK, or SB's marriage, this relevant timeline may help. I presume SB joined the 2nd Battalion (see below). FYI: The 12th Regiment was also known as 12th East Suffolk Regiment.

Record of Services of the 1st Battalion Suffolk Regiment (formerly the 12th Regiment)

2nd Battalion raised in 1811 and proceeded to Ireland in 1812 - SB attested in 1813
To England, Flanders, France, and returned to England 1815
To Ireland 1816
Disbanded 1818
Ireland to 1820
England to 1823
Gibraltar to 1834
England to 1835
Ireland to 1837
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Re: Hannah CONNELLY

Postby SDV » Tue May 12, 2020 2:14 pm

As far as I know, there is no blood line, certainly not a direct one.

Catherine Connelly was my Great grandfather's first wife, but when she died young he re-married and my blood-line traces back to that second marriage.

My interest in the Connelly's is that until relatively recently no one in my family had known or admitted to knowing that our Great Grandmother wasn't the first wife. It was as if Catherine and her three children didn't exist, even though the two children who survived were brought up alongside children from the second marriage. So my Grandfather must have known of their existence!

I think it all relates to the fact that we can't find a marriage for my Great Grandfather to his second wife, so all the children including my Grandfather would have been illegitimate. It doesn't matter to me, but I suppose it meant more back in the day.

The information about Samuel is interesting and I will follow up in time, but I would really like to concentrate and close out on Mary Ann's family, where there is still missing data.

PS Your timeline puts them in Gibraltar in 1834, but Mary Ann was born there in 1826.
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Re: Hannah CONNELLY

Postby MoVidger » Tue May 12, 2020 2:26 pm

The timelines are "up to [year]" So: England (up to) to 1823; Gibraltar (up to) to 1834; and so on. Sounds like the 12th was in Gibraltar from 1823/24 to 1834.
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Re: Hannah CONNELLY

Postby SDV » Tue May 12, 2020 2:37 pm

That makes sense. I wonder if they had any other children?

I know it isn't my direct line, but still interesting.
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Re: Hannah CONNELLY

Postby MoVidger » Tue May 12, 2020 2:52 pm

Also, if Samuel Boyde was alive and still with the 12th by 1837, it would probably put the family in Ireland circa 1841. So no 1841 census appearance then.

As for troubled Hannah Connelly, she isn’t popping up after the 1861 census (aside from the 1872 newspaper mention). Try searching for her by initials only (HC/AC), in case she was in a hospital or institution by 1871 onwards.

I did see an “HC” in the 1891 census (Wandsworth). She was an inmate in a County Mental Asylum. The age fit, but unfortunately, no birthplaces listed for the inmates.

The same initials suggestion for Anna Mary Walters. It’s like she just popped out of nowhere when she acted as the 1866 death certificate informant. There’s no suitable records for her prior to 1866.
Hopefully her death cert will reveal an informant to help with your research.

Good luck with your searches for both ladies. My work here is done. :)
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