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Charles Kennedy Royal Navy 221825

Postby midshipman » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:58 pm

I am looking for the death date for Charles Kennedy. Born 22nd February 1887 in Birkenhead and joined the Royal Navy as a boy on 1st August 1902 and given service number 221825.
Married Annabella James in June 1915 in Tynemouth and continued to reside there after the end of the First World War.
I cannot discover what happened to him in later life and when he died. Can any member please help?

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Re: Charles Kennedy Royal Navy 221825

Postby Templ4r » Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:01 pm

There's a tree on Ancestry that has Annabella born 1895, died 1932. There isn't a death for her, but there is an Annabella Kennedy marrying a John Mcgee in april 1931 in Tynemouth and a death that matches, Annabella Mcgee, born abt 1897 and died 1932, Tynemouth.

I wonder if that's her as a widow so charles would have died pre 1931?
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Re: Charles Kennedy Royal Navy 221825

Postby ColinB » Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:27 pm

Whilst it seems unlikely initially , there is a death in Sevenoaks :

Charles Kennedy b 1887 3Q 1929 Sevenoaks 2A 813

and a related burial :

Charles Kennedy
b 1887
died at Holmesdale Hospital Sevenoaks . Removed from/ address Sevenoaks
buried 19 Jul 1929
Place : Gillingham , Grange Road and Woodland Cemeteries
Grave reference Section CJ. Number 186. (U)
Entry No. 7584.

An ancestry tree has these details attached to your Charles Kennedy but also has him marrying Sarah Maud Askew 16 Dec 1925 in Gillingham. She was first married to William John Dwane in 1914 in Brentwood.

Kennedy/ Dwane 4Q 1925 Medway 2a 1771
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Re: Charles Kennedy Royal Navy 221825

Postby midshipman » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:13 pm

Templ4r wrote:There's a tree on Ancestry that has Annabella born 1895, died 1932. There isn't a death for her, but there is an Annabella Kennedy marrying a John Mcgee in april 1931 in Tynemouth and a death that matches, Annabella Mcgee, born abt 1897 and died 1932, Tynemouth.

I wonder if that's her as a widow so charles would have died pre 1931?
Yes I believe he might have died before 1931. Their last child was born in 1923.

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Re: Charles Kennedy Royal Navy 221825

Postby midshipman » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:14 pm

Thanks Colin but I don't believe this is my Charles Kennedy.
ColinB wrote:Whilst it seems unlikely initially , there is a death in Sevenoaks :

Charles Kennedy b 1887 3Q 1929 Sevenoaks 2A 813

and a related burial :

Charles Kennedy
b 1887
died at Holmesdale Hospital Sevenoaks . Removed from/ address Sevenoaks
buried 19 Jul 1929
Place : Gillingham , Grange Road and Woodland Cemeteries
Grave reference Section CJ. Number 186. (U)
Entry No. 7584.

An ancestry tree has these details attached to your Charles Kennedy but also has him marrying Sarah Maud Askew 16 Dec 1925 in Gillingham. She was first married to William John Dwane in 1914 in Brentwood.

Kennedy/ Dwane 4Q 1925 Medway 2a 1771


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Re: Charles Kennedy Royal Navy 221825

Postby ianbee » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:09 pm

Any chance?
Hartlepool Northern Daily Mail, 20 Aug 1929, has
While expecting word of her husband's home-coming after four years’ absence Mrs. Charles Kennedy, of Albert Street, Blyth, yesterday received a wireless message announcing his death and burial at sea...

Deaths at Sea, 1929, Charles Kennedy, 39, Ulimaroa.
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Re: Charles Kennedy Royal Navy 221825

Postby midshipman » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:14 pm

ianbee wrote:Any chance?
Hartlepool Northern Daily Mail, 20 Aug 1929, has
While expecting word of her husband's home-coming after four years’ absence Mrs. Charles Kennedy, of Albert Street, Blyth, yesterday received a wireless message announcing his death and burial at sea...

Deaths at Sea, 1929, Charles Kennedy, 39, Ulimaroa.
That's the Charles Kennedy I been looking for. Well done Ian.

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Re: Charles Kennedy Royal Navy 221825

Postby MoVidger » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:29 pm

Hi John - following on from Ian's find, here is the index record on FMP. The record does include an image which I can email to you if you don't have a FMP subscription.

Deaths At Sea 1891 – 1972
First name(s) Charles
Last name Kennedy
Age 39
Birth year 1890
Birth place Blytha England British
Death date 12 Aug 1929
Death place At Sea
Vessel name Ulimaroa
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Re: Charles Kennedy Royal Navy 221825

Postby midshipman » Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:21 pm

MoVidger wrote:Hi John - following on from Ian's find, here is the index record on FMP. The record does include an image which I can email to you if you don't have a FMP subscription.

Deaths At Sea 1891 – 1972
First name(s) Charles
Last name Kennedy
Age 39
Birth year 1890
Birth place Blytha England British
Death date 12 Aug 1929
Death place At Sea
Vessel name Ulimaroa
Many thanks for the info Mo.
I would appreciate an image, my email is jlowemet@yahoo.com
Regards John

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Re: Charles Kennedy Royal Navy 221825

Postby Lyndale » Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:34 pm

Hi Midshipman,
I did some research regarding your query when (Royal Navy Petty Officer 221825) Charles Kennedy died, who you have born Birkenhead 22 Feb 1887 and who you have marrying Annabella James in Tynemouth in 1915. What presented itself when I looked was that either you have the wrong Charles Kennedy, or the wrong marriage. There are several public trees on Ancestry for both Charles Kennedy’s and whilst these submissions need careful checking, they are all saying the same thing as follows: - (1) The CK born 1887 Birkenhead (parents Thomas John & Ann Kennedy, nee Briscoe) married Sarah Maud Askew 16 Dec 1925 Gillingham district, Kent (she a widow, her first husband was William John Dwane, married Q1 1914, who was killed at Ypres 29 July 1914). This CK is indeed the Royal Navy enlistee #221825 and is recorded serving with the Navy in the 1911 census. This couple had a child who died as a baby, Albert Thomas Kennedy 1926-1927. This CK died 14 July 1929 Sevenoaks district Kent age 42 (Q3 1929, 2A/813). (2) The CK who married Annabella Anderson James (she born Q2 1895 Tynemouth) was born Q1 1890 Tynemouth district, but on his 1911 census he is living at home, occupation Seaman (i.e. Merchant Navy) born Cowpens Quay, Blyth, Northumberland, parents John & Rosina Kennedy, nee Semmens. This JK-AAJ couple had a child called Charles Kennedy born 6 Nov 1915, died 1995. None of the 14-odd trees on Ancestry have a death for this CK, but the only fit in the GRO deaths index is:- Charles Kennedy, died age 42 (born approx 1889/1890) Q4 1931 West Derby district (Liverpool) 8B/605. Note that both CK’s died age 42, which probably explains the mix-up. If this helps you to identify which Charles Kennedy is your ancestor, then please let me know if this information has helped with your brick wall? Cheers Lyndale, Melbourne Australia.
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