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Postby ColinW » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:52 pm

I am having problems with a research on my mums side of the family.

My mum: Sylvia May Bowhay 1937 - 2008

Her mum: Lena Hatherley 1906 – 1943 (dates I found on Ancestry)

Lena’s mum: Selina Lena Hatherley 1881 – 1951 (dates I found on Ancestry)

But I can not find out who Lena’s dad was.

Can anyone help please?
Thank you.
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Re: 'Hatherley'

Postby MoVidger » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:21 pm

Do you have a copy of Lena's 1927 marriage certificate? If so, does it mention a father?
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Re: 'Hatherley'

Postby ColinW » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:59 pm

The only certificate I have is Lena Hatherley - Birth. The father section is blank.
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Re: 'Hatherley'

Postby MoVidger » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:07 pm

I note that Lena (age 4) is residing with the Edworthy family in 1911, but her relationship to the family is oddly left blank. Do you know of any family connection (for Lena) to the Edworthy family?

FMP doesn't appear to have a baptism record for Lena. So you may need to invest in a copy of her marriage certificate although the father's name may be blank.
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Re: 'Hatherley'

Postby ColinW » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:14 pm

"Do you know of any family connection (for Lena) to the Edworthy family?"

Not heard of that name.

On my Ancestry tree I have:

Lena's mum - Selina Lena Hatherley - Selina's dad - Henry and Mum - Emma Pillar.

Not sure though if these are correct though.
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Re: 'Hatherley'

Postby MoVidger » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:18 pm

I gather that Selina was married with another child when she gave birth to Lena. What address is listed on Lena's birth certificate?
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Re: 'Hatherley'

Postby ColinW » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:21 pm

13 Plymouth Road Totnes Devon, the town I live in.
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Postby MoVidger » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:05 pm

That address was a workhouse address at the time.
See http://www.workhouses.org.uk/addresses/t.shtml
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Re: 'Hatherley'

Postby Templ4r » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:03 pm

There is another Selina Hatherley in the Totnes Workhouse in 1911, born Brixham 1882 with an Edward Fear Hatherley, 1 month old. that could account for Lena being with a foster family in 1911.

Are you sure the one that married is the right Selina? She is a daughter of Henry/Harry and Emma.
There is another the daughter of William and Selina.
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Re: 'Hatherley'

Postby MoVidger » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:28 pm

FMP has the 1913 baptism record for son Edward Hatherley. No father listed. Abode is "13 Norton Tce, Paignton"

First name(s) Edward
Last name Hatherley
Birth year 1913
Birth date 06 Mar 1913 (alleged date, according to baptism image)
Baptism date 16 Mar 1913
Denomination Anglican
Baptism place Paignton, St John
Mother's first name(s) Selina

There is also a school record with image for Selina (the lady found in the workhouse w/ son Edward Fear in 1911). Home address is Higher Street.

National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
First name(s) Selina
Last name Hatherley
Birth date 07 Oct 1884
Event year 1896
School name Brixham National School
Town Brixham
County Devon
Parent name(s) William

Selina Hatherleigh and widower father William (railway porter) are living on Higher Street, Brixham in the 1891 census. It matches the address stated in the 1896 school record.
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