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1939 ID Cards

Postby janlawson » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:04 pm

My grandfather Robert Edgar Clarke born 20 Apr 1901 in Chorlton on Medlock (Manchester) is missing from the 1939 list. I know where my grandmother (in Manchester) and father (evacuated)were but my grandfather has eluded me. I wonder if he was in the military but, unlike my other grandfather, I can't find any information to confirm it. Any ideas?
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Re: 1939 ID Cards

Postby lwswfc » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:27 pm

Maybe the records to confirm his military service are still subject to a hundred year rule? I know some individuals can be found, but I've had a similar issue with my Grandad's brothers who don't appear on the 1939 Register and have no military service records to corroborate their involvement. I know you can apply for service records from the MOD if you have the required information.

Hope this helps in some way.

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Re: 1939 ID Cards

Postby Templ4r » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:10 pm

My grandmother is on the 1939 register but my grandfather isn't, but I know he was in the Grenadier Guards and at Dunkirk. I can't find 3 of his brothers and they were all in the Army so it looks like it's reasonable to assume yours was as well.

I don't think people were called up at that time so wouldn't be in prison for being a consciencious objector. The other possibility is foreign nationals who were interned.
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Re: 1939 ID Cards

Postby junkers » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:32 am

I don't think being in the military should mean there is no entry, subject to the 100-year-rule on date of birth. If he was in prison or interned by the Government (including British Nationals deemed to be a threat to the country) then he probably would not be on the list and he could possibly could have been overseas or in Scotland which has a separate register.
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Re: 1939 ID Cards

Postby avaline » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:55 am

junkers wrote:I don't think being in the military should mean there is no entry, subject to the 100-year-rule on date of birth.


The 1939 register was a register of the civilian population only, so members of the armed forces were specifically excluded, unless they were on leave. This is confirmed by the National Archives research guide: https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hel ... s-compiled
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Re: 1939 ID Cards

Postby janlawson » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:13 pm

Thank you for all your comments. The only mention of military service I can recall is a vague mention of service in Ireland in the 1920s. Unfortunately there are no family members left to ask. I will keep on looking.
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Re: 1939 ID Cards

Postby Guy » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:08 pm

Wild stab but there is a Robert Clarke born 20 Apr 1901 with a Lizzie Clarke born 21 Jan 1898 on the '39 register any possibility?
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