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Missing census returns

Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:51 pm

I am trying to locate Henry MARDELL (1815-1893) and his third wife Lucy CHEASLEY (1822-1885) in the 1881 census. In 1871, the couple were living at Church Road, Tottenham. In 1891, Henry was a widower living at Tebworth Road, Tottenham. Lucy died in 1885 in Tottenham.

On a similar note, I am also trying to locate Henry's sister, Louisa SOLE (1817-1882) in the 1871 and 1881 censuses. In 1861 she was living at Eaton Place, Edmonton. She died in 1882 in Edmonton, Workhouse.

Any insights welcome.

Re: Missing census returns

Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:35 pm

Louisa Sole admitted to the workhouse 30.11.82, from Edmonton
Discharged 24.12.82, presumably dead. Info from creed register.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... 3N-P?i=343

Best I can do in 1881 is a Louisa Foley in Tottenham, 65, born Wanstead. Lodging at 8 Union Row with Sarah Hughes and her children.
Though there is not much sign afterwards of this Louisa Foley (or even before), it does say she was married.

Eaton Place in 1871 starts piece 1341 folio 57 page 5.

Re: Missing census returns

Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:32 pm

SDV wrote:William MARDELL/MARDEL/MARDLE was born in 1845 in Edmonton. In 1851 and 1861, he is living with his family in Eaton Place, Edmonton. By 1871, the family had moved to Union Row, Tottenham

Might be a good sign. Sure that Union Row has come up before with these families.

Re: Missing census returns

Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:39 am

Ian - you are of course correct. My ancestors on my Gran's side - the Archers, Gilberts and Mardells - did seem to live around the Tottenham/Edmonton border, especially the White Hart Lane area. Eaton Place which was somewhere on Fore Street - I have no idea exactly where - was a popular residence especially for the Mardells, it was doubt a slum and cheap. Other popular streets were Union Row, Love Lane, Sebastopol Road and Claremont Street. A high proportion ended their days at Edmonton Workhouse, now North Middlesex Hospital.

Some family members, however, just don't turn up in the expected areas:

William MARDELL (1805-1863) - where in 1861?

Henry MARDELL (1815-1893) - where were he and his wife, Lucy, in 1881?

Louisa SOLE (1817-1882) - where was she in 1871 and 1881?

With regard to the family of my 4xGGP James and Elizabeth MARDELL, apart from the missing census returns, the only real remaining mystery relates to Elizabeth MESSENGER, who married George MARDELL (1810-1866) in 1833 in Edmonton.

In 1841 George (30) and Elizabeth (29) are living at Tanner's End, Edmonton with three children. The whole family are born in Middlesex. By 1851, George is living in Eaton Place with four children. There is no mention of Elizabeth, though he is marked as married. By 1861, George is still in Eaton Place with his daughter Sarah, but now he is a widower and his birthplace is mistakenly given as Ilford.

With regard to Elizabeth, all I know about her is that she married George in 1833 and she is with him in 1841. I have not definitely found her birth/baptism, though there is a possible in October 1812 for an Elizabeth Frances Messenger in Hornsey. As for a death there is one for Elizabeth MARDELL in 1844 [Q2 1844 Edmonton 3 99] which looked hopeful before I saw that she died aged 64 and realised her daughter Sarah was born in 1847 [Q2 1847 Edmonton 3 148]!

So some progress - thanks for the workhouse record - but still some frustrations.

Re: Missing census returns

Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:00 am

Well, Louisa Mardle was baptized in Wanstead, 2 November 1817.
Seems to be written as Louiza with a z
Born 23rd September. Father James a Labourer. Mother Elizabeth.
Image of PR here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1465709

Throw in the BT as well (sorry, I can't help myself!)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=520223

Re: Missing census returns

Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:11 am

Ian - thanks for the image. Images appear to be "appearing" more and more on Family Search. I knew the date of her baptism, but thought I would have to go to Essex Archives for the image.

Missing census returns still frustrate. Also very confused about George's wife, Elizabeth.

Quick question - how would I access the image of the baptism of George MARDELL, Wanstead in Aug 1810?
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