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Marriage record , Edward Munt , BRICK WALL

Postby Simon45 » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:20 pm

Hi
I’m trying to find the marriage record of the following -
Edward Munt to Ellen Akehurst ( sons birth certificate enclosed dated 1940 )

BTW - Edward Munts first marriage was in 1923 to Ellen Townsend

SO SOMETIME BETWEEN 1923 - 1940

I’ve looked everywhere but hit a brick wall
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Many thanks
Simon


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Re: Marriage record , Edward Munt , BRICK WALL

Postby avaline » Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:08 pm

Ellen Lilian Akehurst aged 23, father George Hayne Akehurst) married James Frederick Tebbs Carlin on 25 Dec 1930 at St Matthews, Newington.

If this is the same Ellen Lilian Akehurst then James Frederick Tebbs Carlin didn't die until 1978.
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Re: Marriage record , Edward Munt , BRICK WALL

Postby MoVidger » Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:11 pm

Hi Simon - looks Edward and Ellen are working at the Orleans Arms Portmouth in Esher in the 1939 Register. He was the barman and she the barmaid.
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Re: Marriage record , Edward Munt , BRICK WALL

Postby Simon45 » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:00 pm

Hi Mo
I found that record on the 1939 register

Trying to find the marriage record / index



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Re: Marriage record , Edward Munt , BRICK WALL

Postby Simon45 » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:13 pm

avaline wrote:Ellen Lilian Akehurst aged 23, father George Hayne Akehurst) married James Frederick Tebbs Carlin on 25 Dec 1930 at St Matthews, Newington.

If this is the same Ellen Lilian Akehurst then James Frederick Tebbs Carlin didn't die until 1978.


Hi
Ellen Lilian Akehurst was born 3 April 1907

Maybe when she married Edward Munt she was a Carlin .....? ( ne Akehurst ) ?


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Re: Marriage record , Edward Munt , BRICK WALL

Postby Simon45 » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:14 pm

MoVidger wrote:Hi Simon - looks Edward and Ellen are working at the Orleans Arms Portmouth in Esher in the 1939 Register. He was the barman and she the barmaid.


Hi Mo
Ellen Lilian Akehust was born 3 April 1907

Kind regards Simon


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Re: Marriage record , Edward Munt , BRICK WALL

Postby MoVidger » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:05 pm

You may need to consider there was no marriage, particularly if Ellen and James Carlin never divorced.
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Re: Marriage record , Edward Munt , BRICK WALL

Postby avaline » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:12 pm

In 1939 James Frederick Tebbs Carlin is with 'wife' Lilian and two children. The youngest child has the mmn Akehurst, but the surname of the older child has been altered from Carlin to Orchard.

Later electoral registers him as Ronald E Orchard, and his birth registration (as Orchard) shows a mmn of Hudson. There are Carlin/Hudson children in 1938 & 1940

This, along with the 1939 entry for Ellen Lilian & Edward, suggests that James Frederick Tebbs Carlin and Ellen Lilian Akehurst separated but did not divorce.
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Re: Marriage record , Edward Munt , BRICK WALL

Postby Simon45 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:37 am

avaline wrote:In 1939 James Frederick Tebbs Carlin is with 'wife' Lilian and two children. The youngest child has the mmn Akehurst, but the surname of the older child has been altered from Carlin to Orchard.

Later electoral registers him as Ronald E Orchard, and his birth registration (as Orchard) shows a mmn of Hudson. There are Carlin/Hudson children in 1938 & 1940

This, along with the 1939 entry for Ellen Lilian & Edward, suggests that James Frederick Tebbs Carlin and Ellen Lilian Akehurst separated but did not divorce.


Hi
Thanks for the reply and information
I guess I will NOT be able to find the marriage record of Edward Munt to Ellen

Would it be worth going to the local Register Offices in the district they got married ...?

Thank you


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Re: Marriage record , Edward Munt , BRICK WALL

Postby Simon45 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:38 am

MoVidger wrote:You may need to consider there was no marriage, particularly if Ellen and James Carlin never divorced.


Hi Mo
Ok thanks
Would it be worth going to the local Register Offices were they got married....?


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