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Where did John Rothery marry?

Postby Mick Loney » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:13 am

John Rothery married Florence Elizabeth Hyomes/Hymes on 26 November 1898.


From the Parish Register entry, it took place in Parish Church, Horbury Bridge, Yorkshire.

The problem is that FindmyPast, in their England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription, shows the marriage took place in Meltham-Mills! (Same date, same couple)

Meltham itself is about 15-20 mile from Horbury Bridge, so is Meltham Mills a different place?

Can someone with local knowledge of area help me out.
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Re: Where did John Rothery marry?

Postby sdup26 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:11 pm

As you say, the transcription on FMP says they married at Meltham Mills, which is 15-odd miles from Horbury.
However, the parish register for St John the Divine, Horbury Bridge, is online at ancestry, and clearly shows John Rothery marrying Florence Elizabeth Hymes, 26th November 1898. His father Thomas, a quarryman, hers George, a signalman, and witnesses Thomas Rothery and Jane Elizabeth Ellis.
Maybe just an error in the transcription process?
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Re: Where did John Rothery marry?

Postby ianbee » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:26 pm

England Marriages 1538-1973 is from FamilySearch, but is also available via findmypast
The Rothery marriage in 1898 is indexed twice
1. At Horbury Bridge
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFCJ-PFR

2. At Meltham Mills
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NVDQ-RJR

Source of both transcriptions is LDS microfilm 1542280
And, from the catalogue, we can see that MF 1542280 contains
Items 1 - 4: Parish registers for Meltham-Mills, 1838-1951
Items 5 - 6: Parish registers for Horbury-Bridge, 1868-1954

So with the two places being on the same film, it looks like an indexing error by FamilySearch.
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Re: Where did John Rothery marry?

Postby Mick Loney » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:40 pm

Ianbee,
Thanks for that, at least that explains how the ‘mis-transcription’ could have occurred. :D
Sadly, I didn’t know where findmypast had got their information, as I had previously got the image from Ancestry. I hadn’t realised FamilySearch had them both!
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Re: Where did John Rothery marry?

Postby AdrianB38 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:32 pm

ianbee wrote:...
And, from the catalogue, we can see that MF 1542280 contains
Items 1 - 4: Parish registers for Meltham-Mills, 1838-1951
Items 5 - 6: Parish registers for Horbury-Bridge, 1868-1954

So with the two places being on the same film, it looks like an indexing error by FamilySearch.

And regrettably this is a typical error by FS. From the LDS GetSatisfaction forum, I learnt that in errors like this, what happens is that the place-name is not entered on every index entry (in fairness, a whole register would just keep repeating the same place-name ad nauseum on every single entry). Instead the place-name gets assigned immediately after the indexing of the individual lines and to all those index lines. Now, what should happen is that the assigned place-name alters part way through - with these errors, it doesn't, the one from the start is assigned all the way through.

I have no idea how many multi-place films are fouled up so that the first place-name is assigned throughout and how many are correct. "I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader" ;)

For clarity - I am not saying that all multi-place films are fouled up.
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Re: Where did John Rothery marry?

Postby Mick Loney » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:26 pm

Adrian,
Now you mention it, I remember coming across this before and didn’t understand why.
Now that Ian and yourself have explained the reason, I’ll know better next time I come across it!
Thanks, you learn something new every day :D
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