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Charles Hemmings OBLI WW1

Postby phsvm » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:26 pm

I'm trying to work out when Charles Hemmings joined the OBLI.

His number is 240889 and his medal card shows only Victory and War medal. Unfortunately, his records don't survive.

I've been unable to find any other OBLI men whose records have suvived and whose numbers are similar to Charles.

The CWGC records John Hall of the OBLI with the number 265596 who died in July 16 so my best guess at the moment is that Charles joined in the first half of 1916, presumably under the Derby Scheme. He was from Abingdon, Berks so I assume that's where he attested.

Could anyone narrow this down for me please?
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Re: Charles Hemmings OBLI WW1

Postby AdrianB38 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:55 pm

Initial thought - in March 1917, when the Territorials were renumbered, 240889 belonged to the sequence allocated to the 10th Ox & Bucks Light Infantry. (See https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/soldiers/a-soldiers-life-1914-1918/renumbering-of-the-territorial-force-in-1917/renumbering-the-tf-infantry-in-1917/) This may or may not help!

According to the Long, Long, Trail
10th Battalion
Originally formed as the 83rd Provisional Bn in June 1915 and intended for home service only.
Came under orders of 216th Brigade of 72nd Division from November 1916.
1 January 1917 : became the 10th Ox & Bucks.
Moved to Bedford in January 1917 and on to Ipswich in May where it then remained.
Left the Division in July 1917 and disbanded in January 1918.

My emphasis. Given that your chap has campaign medals, it suggests that he was in the 10th at the March 1917 renumbering but was transferred out into some other OBLI battalion - because the 10th seems not to have gone overseas.

Number 265596 probably isn't much help to you since it belongs to the Buckinghamshire Battalion, which seems to have a history that I don't understand yet, so their numbers will be in a different sequence and at a different time.
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Re: Charles Hemmings OBLI WW1

Postby AdrianB38 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:32 pm

Try
First name(s) Thomas Henry
Last name Lamb
Age 18
Birth year 1898
Service number 240879
Regiment Oxfordshire & Buckinghamshire Light Infantry
Unit / Battalion 10th Battalion


He was mobilized (as a conscript) 2 Dec 1916, posted next day to the 83rd Provisional Battalion, which became the 10th OBLI 1 Jan 1917. That would suggest that numbers around about 240879 (and 240889) were handed out at the very start of 1917.

Now, I'm going to quit this while I'm ahead because, while I found several other 2408* numbers in the Ox* regiment on FindMyPast, the papers are really scrappy - often just a "Casualty" Form to record movements - and it was virtually impossible to discover basic details like when they joined. It doesn't help that most of those I found were all over the place in terms of regiments served in. Mr Lamb is by far the clearest, and only simple, set of papers I've seen so far.

Because of the multiple regiments seen on some of the others, your chap might have been elsewhere before being moved to the 10th OBLI in Jan 1917 - on the other hand, if you could find his birth and convince yourself that he was about 18 (like Lamb), then he might have followed a similar path to Lamb.
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Re: Charles Hemmings OBLI WW1

Postby phsvm » Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:39 pm

Thanks Adrian.

His dob was 30 April 1898.
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Re: Charles Hemmings OBLI WW1

Postby AdrianB38 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:56 pm

phsvm wrote:Thanks Adrian.

His dob was 30 April 1898.
So 18 in April 1916, the earliest that he could have gone abroad.

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Re: Charles Hemmings OBLI WW1

Postby AdrianB38 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:00 pm

... so he could have been conscripted early in 1916, gone somewhere in the UK and then ended up in the 10th OBLI in January 1917. Guess we'll never know that bit about what happened before January.

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