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Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:17 pm
I have a mystery I’m trying to solve, one of my ancestors Richard Brookes married a Ann Fox (1781 -1865) in 1813 in Bampton Oxfordshire. Richard appears to have died before 1841 as he is not mentioned in the 1841 census his wife Ann is. Richard seems to have had a brother Joseph Brookes (Joseph visits Ann in the 1851 census in Bampton) Joseph was listed as being born in about 1777 in Southall Green in Middlesex. Presumably Richard was also from Southall Green, but I can find no record of either and apart from Joseph’s appearance in 1851 he too disappears from existence. Any help on how to proceed would be much appreciated thanks.
Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:35 pm
You may have already seen this death, but I thought it worth passing on to you. I assume that you have looked for the name of Brooks, without an 'e '?
In the September Quarter of 1840 there is the death of a Richard Brooks registered St Olaves, which is Southwark. I found it on FreeBMD.
Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:30 pm
The Richard Brooks found by Kay, was 53 on death in 1840, so born about 1787.
Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:48 pm
Did your ancestor serve in the military at all? My father's family were all in the merchant navy and are often hard to track down during their life time. They are sometimes absent from census returns but turn up on census ship lists when they were at sea. Quite a few also died at sea, which also takes a little extra work. You'll tend to find these ancestors with homes on the coast. Those that joined the army might be found inland as well as on the coast. Don't forget that some ancestors, including Victorians, had double lives and other families. One of my ancestors had two families in different places at the same time as he travelled in his work from one place to another. On some census returns he was with one family and on others he was with his second family. Both wives may even have the same first name, as I have found with others. More common than you might think.
Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:29 am
There is a burial for Richard Brooks at Bampton
Richard Brooks of Cote 30 Aug 1837 age 83 years.
That would make him born 1754.
There is a Death Duty record for his death and a death registration at Witney.Sep 1837 16 page 81.
Given his age I'd look at the following perhaps as a first family
John s of Richard and Rebecca of Aston at Bampton 19 May 1782
Frances 9 Jan 1785
Rebecca was buried 24 Feb 1811 age 55 so born 1756
There was a marriage at Bampton 7 Nov 1778 to a Rebecca Baker
wit John Wright and Robert Bekin
Without the Southall connection I'd have gone for this
Richard Brooks at Bampton 25 Jan 1756 s of William Brooks and Matthew his wife
But William was buried age 40 at Bampton of Aston 10.4.1767.
Martha 17.7.1762 age 39 years of Aston
Other children -William Dec 1750,Mary 2 Feb 1753,Elizabeth 6.10.1754,Martha 14.1.1759,Margaret 14.11.1760,and Margaret 3.7.1762.
Could Richard have been sent to live with relatives in London as a child perhaps and consider Joseph a brother?
Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:23 pm
Oh yes, this last one is a very valid point. It's easy to forget that sometimes relatives adopted, for instance, nieces and nephews as well as grandchildren as their children. One of my ancestors adopted his grandson as his son and his surname changed. It took a while for me to track him down.
Good luck with your research.
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