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herbert leonard smith

Postby Cmcquade » Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:15 am

I am looking for any information on a herbert leonard smith. According to family hear say his surname may have changed by himself or his father down the line somewhere. the imformation i have is:

occupation: post 1937 lorry driver, was in italy ww2.
married: elsie may clark 2nd aug 1937 - beverley father: joe smith the black smith
remarried: lilly
child:june p smith 1939

i cant seem to find any imformation about him before this except a herbert leonard smith in ripon,yorks. And a herbert leonard smith born 1912,selby to a mothers ms russell,but i wouldnt even know if i was looking at the right one.

any help would be appriciated
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Re: herbert leonard smith

Postby brunes08 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:40 am

If you can find the family on the 1939 Register, you should see his date of birth. You could then obtain a birth certificate for him. As you know his father’s name it would help you to confirm the correct one. However, if he was in military service before the Register was taken, then he won’t be on it as service personnel are listed elsewhere. Hope that helps a little.


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Re: herbert leonard smith

Postby elsabels » Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:37 pm

June P Smith birth registration

Smith June P Clark Holderness 9d 89

Marriage? Smith June P 1956 England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Holderness, Yorkshire, England v 2a p 143

Potential death June P Ballantyne
Ballantyne June Patricia 1938 1989 1989 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Beverley, Yorkshire, England

1939
14 Corporation Road Beverley
SMITH Herbert Leonard, b 23 Dec 1911 Lorry Driver / Coal Hawker
SMITH Elsie May b 4 April 1915
SMITH June ( Ballantyne 14.03.1957) b 5 June 1938 ( transcription states 1915)

Baptism
b 23 Dec 1911
bp 26 Jan 1912
St Mary Beverley
Father Joe Mother Florrie
Residence Underwood Yard, Selby

Name: Elsie M Clark
Registration Date: Jul-Aug-Sep 1937
Registration district: Holderness
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Spouse: Herbert L Smith
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 359
Death of Smith Herbert

Name: Herbert Leonard Smith
Event Type: Death Registration
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1981
Registration District: Beverley
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Beverley, Yorkshire, England
Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969): 23 Dec 1911
Volume: 7 Page: 0002 Affiliate Line Number: 76

Death Name: Elsie May Smith
Death Age: 72
Birth Date: 4 Apr 1915
Registration Date: Nov 1987
Registration district: Beverley
Inferred County: Humberside
Volume: 7
Page: 17

Joseph Newsome SMITH
b 13 July 1885
bp 25 Feb1899
St John Beverley
Father Francis
Mother Amelia

1911 census
Name: Joseph Smith
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Event Place: Selby, Selby, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
Parish: Selby
Sub-District: Selby
Registration District: Selby
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Marital Status: SINGLE
Occupation: BLACKSMITH
Birth Year (Estimated): 1886
Birthplace: Beverley
Relationship to Head of Household: Visitor

1881
Love Lane Beverley
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Francis Smith Head Male 36 Shipton, Yorkshire, England
Amelia Smith Wife Female 32 Cottyworth, Yorkshire, England
William Smith Son Male 12 Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Edith Smith Daughter Female 10 Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Alfred Smith Son Male 8 Beverley, Yorkshire, England
Francis Smith Son Male 6 Beverley, Yorkshire, England
George Smith Son Male 4 Beverley, Yorkshire, England
Selina Smith Daughter Female 1 Beverley, Yorkshire, England
Jane Newsome Visitor Female 56 Cottyworth, Yorkshire, England
Mark Newsome Visitor Male 14 Cottyworth, Yorkshire, England
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Re: herbert leonard smith

Postby Cmcquade » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:52 pm

wow thank you for that,but can i ask how you got his mothers name? i cant find the baptism anywhere.
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Re: herbert leonard smith

Postby elsabels » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:22 pm

The 1912 baptism giving the mother's forename is on FMP

As Herbert was born post 1911 his mothers maiden name is automatically included in the records
1939 There is a family living at 66 Norwood Grove , Beverley
Joe SMITH b 28 June 1887
Florrie SMITH b 4 Feb 1889
Leslie SMITH b 21 Nov 1919

Some of the info came off familysearch.org.....
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