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Lily Maud Richards b 12 Nov 1898

Postby Beverley Stephens » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:00 pm

Lily Maud Richards was born on 12 Nov 1898 in Bedminster, Bristol her father is Thomas Healy Richards, a Stone Mason and her mother is Elizabeth Ann (nee Phipps).

She is not named on the 1901 census but Alice M Richards, age 2, is. I can’t find a birth record for Alice M or indeed any other reference to her, likewise I can’t see Lily Maud ever mentioned again.

Are these two names the same child? Lily Maud would have been 28 months old on 31 Mar 1901, so she could be the 2-year-old on the 1901 census. Potentially, Elizabeth Ann could have had Alice in Q3/4 1899, making her about 18 months old in 1901, so she could also be the 2-year-old.

My gut instinct is that Alice M is actually Lily Maud, however on the 1911 census there were apparently 13 children born alive, 5 of which had died. I have found 11 children, if I count Lily Maud and Alice M as different people & only 2 deaths. Alice M and Lily Maud, if they are two people could be 2 more of the deaths.

Please can anyone help me find death records for Lily Maud and Alice M or a birth for Alice M. Many thanks.
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Re: Lily Maud Richards b 12 Nov 1898

Postby elsabels » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:21 pm

The marriage of Thomas RICHARDS to Elizabeth nee HOPKINS, PHIPPS

Name
Elizabeth Ann Phipps
Spouse
Thomas Richards
Father
Henry Hopkins
Marriage
23/08/1870 St. Nicholas Parish, Bristol, Gloucester, England
Residence
Bristol, Gloucester, England

Children found in the GRO registers with some

RICHARDS, LILY MAUD PHIPPS
GRO Reference: 1899 M Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 4
Lilian Maud Baptised Bedminster, St John, Somersetshire 18 Nov 1898 parents Tom & Elizabeth

RICHARDS, CHARLES CHESTERFIELD PHIPPS
GRO Reference: 1895 J Quarter in BEDMINSTER Volume 05C Page 675

RICHARDS, BEATRICE PHIPPS
GRO Reference: 1892 S Quarter in BEDMINSTER Volume 05C Page 615
Beatrice Baptised Bedminster, St John, Somersetshire 24 June 1892 parents Tom & Elizabeth

RICHARDS, CAROLINE PHIPPS
GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in BEDMINSTER Volume 05C Page 627

RICHARDS, TOM EALEY PHIPPS
GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in BEDMINSTER Volume 05C Page 637


RICHARDS, HARRIET PHIPPS
GRO Reference: 1885 J Quarter in BEDMINSTER Volume 05C Page 694
Beatrice Baptised Bedminster, St John, Somersetshire 26 June 1885 parents Thomas & Elizabeth

RICHARDS, ELIZABETH ANN PHIPPS
GRO Reference: 1882 D Quarter in BEDMINSTER Volume 05C Page 680

RICHARDS, JOHN PHIPPS
GRO Reference: 1879 M Quarter in BEDMINSTER Volume 05C Page 745

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
RICHARDS, SARAH MARIA PHIPPS
GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in BEDMINSTER Volume 05C Page 662 Occasional Copy: A

RICHARDS, FREDERICK JAMES PHIPPS
GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in WELLS Volume 05C Page 594

I suspect Lily M /Lilian Maud & Alice M are one and the same child
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Re: Lily Maud Richards b 12 Nov 1898

Postby Beverley Stephens » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:28 am

Thank you for your very detailed reply elsabels. It's good to know that you also suspect Lily and Alice could be the same person.

I'll keep searching for a death for Lily, I thought I'd found one but when the PDF came through it wasn't her. Never mind!
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Re: Lily Maud Richards b 12 Nov 1898

Postby elsabels » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:43 am

Do you check for details on the gro.gov site where you can get a bit more info than on their search facility?

I would check Parish records for the death of Lily / Alice.

You may also find burials of babies that have not been registered at birth, dying soon after.

Either this link https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Be ... _Genealogy or genuki.org will help in the sourcing the registers
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Re: Lily Maud Richards b 12 Nov 1898

Postby Beverley Stephens » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:05 am

Thank you again elsabels, I will do as you suggest. Your help has been very much appreciated.
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