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Re: John Charles born 1871

Postby elsabels » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:43 am

OOOppps
https://lifelink.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelin ... y/search?8

John Charles
Name: John Charles
Baptism Date: 1 Mar 1871
Baptism Place: Bordesley, Holy Trinity, Warwickshire, England
Father: John Charles Mother: Hannah Charles

Name: Hannah Charles
[Hannah Dean]
Gender: Female
Age: 38
Birth Date: abt 1842
Marriage Date: 9 Feb 1880
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Peter, Warwickshire


1881 4 Back 28 Arthur Street Aston
James Askey 48 b Birmingham
Hannah Askey 40 b Clayhill Middlesex
James Askey 7 son of James & 1st wife?
Mary Patrick 16 Dau of James Askey b Aldershot
William Charles 22 b Bermuda WI ( 1871 indicates East Indies = transcription error)
Mary Charles 23 b Bermuda WI ( 1871 indicates East Indies)
John Charles 10 desc as son in law which title is common for a stepson b Birmingham

1888 JC enlisted with the Royal Warwickshire Regiment service no 2693
transferring to King's Royal Rifle Corps service no 4795 discharged Sept 1889

1891 with family
RG12; Piece: 2349; Folio: 79; Page: 43

1892 married Name: Lillie Hazell ( Hassell?)
Registration Year: 1892
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: King's Norton
Volume: 6c : Page: 795

1901
John Charles 30
Lilly Charles 27 b Worcestershire ( Kings Norton)
*John Charles 7
Frank Charles 5
John H Higginbottom 21 bil
Rose E Higginbottom 23 sil

Did John Charles leave his family behind?

*John Charles
Death Age: 81
Birth Date: 31 May 1893
Registration Date: Mar 1975
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: West Midlands
Volume: 32
Page: 1554
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Re: John Charles born 1871

Postby elsabels » Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:40 pm

I lose John Charles in the UK after 1907 ( baptism record suggests he is the father of Doris Irene, the 1911 record has Lily living with John VICKERY, she states she is married to him in 1939)

Lily Charles
1911 Census
RG14; Piece: 17838; Schedule Number: 160
162 Midland Road, Cotteridge, Kings Norton
Charles 37
Doris Charles 3
John Vickery 25

CHARLES states Female b Kings Norton married 18 years 6 children 4 living
This birth confirms it is Lily Charles
CHARLES, DORIS IRENE mmn HAZELL
GRO Reference: 1907 S Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 228

The children to make 6 as declared on the 1911 census from baptism records:
John CHARLES b 31 May 1893
Frank CHARLES bp 27 June 1900
Lily CHARLES bp 27 June 1900
Ada Florence CHARLES bp 3 Aug 1902
William Edward CHARLES b 2 Dec 1904
Doris Irene CHARLES b 8 Aug 1907

1939 Register
1 Sant Road Birmingham
Charles Doris Irene 8 Aug 1907
Vickary Jack 18 Oct 1880 states married
Vickary Lily 23 Sept 1873 states married

Doris Irene Charles
Death Age: 85
Birth Date: 8 Aug 1907
Registration Date: Jan 1993
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: West Midlands
Register Number: C67A
District and Subdistrict: 0611C

Doris Irene Charles
Death Date: 24 Dec 1992
Death Place: West Heath Birmingham
Probate Date: 9 Feb 1993
Registry: Liverpool

Address Sant Road
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Re: John Charles born 1871

Postby elsabels » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:41 pm

Bit more about Lily /Lilian CHARLES

Jack VICKERY enlisted 13 May 1916 stated next of kin Lilian Charles unmarried and lists the followng
Doris Irene 8 Aug 1907
Gilbert V 25 Nov 1911
Albert E 10 August 1914

This could be Lily /Lilian's death entry
Name: Lily Vickery
Death Age: 100
Birth Date: 5 Sep 1873
Registration Date: Sep 1973
Registration district: Birmingham
Volume: 9c Page: 684

Name: John Vickery
Death Age: 78
Birth Date: abt 1881
Registration Date: Sep 1959
Registration district: Birmingham
Volume: 9c Page: 403
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