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Alfred Mainwaring

Postby phsvm » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:41 pm

Alfred was born in 1882 Burton on Trent. In 1891 he living with their parents William and Mary and various siblings in Burton on Trent.

There is no sign of him in 1901. He then reappears, as a lodger in 1911 in Measham. Ancestry show his surname as Mortimer. I can trace him from then on through various marriages, electoral roles etc. but where was he in 1901?
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Re: Alfred Mainwaring

Postby sdup26 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:15 pm

Did he join the Army, possibly to fight in the Boer War (1899-1901)? There are attestation papers dated 1899, for an Alfred Mainwaring of Burton on Trent, aged 17 years 11 months, into 4th Battalion, North Staffordshire Regiment, Army number 4411. (If this is your man, he was 5 ft 7 ins tall, with blue eyes and brown hair, religion C of E.)
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Re: Alfred Mainwaring

Postby phsvm » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:29 pm

I have seen those papers and yes that is him.

The Boer War is certainly a possibility as two of his brothers enlisted. One fought in the Boer War and the other in the Sudan Campaign. Unfortuately his attestation paper doesn't say very. I'm not sure what the '49 days' refers to and he doesn't seem to have a discharge date. His MIC and Silver War Roll give him a two WW1 regimental nmbers but say he was discharged after 8 months through sickness having never left the UK. I can't find his Militia papers on Ancestry which, I believe should have been merged with any later WW1 records.
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Re: Alfred Mainwaring

Postby sdup26 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:09 pm

Maybe Alfred wasn't suited to military life; did he then have a go at sailing? In ancestry's Crew Lists, there's a 1907 entry for A Mainwaring, aged 25, (b1882), birthplace Burton. The ship Majestic was the first this man had served on, as a steward. He was discharged at Southampton on 7/11/1907. Each member of the crew has signed; try comparing this man's signature with Alfred's on his attestation.
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Re: Alfred Mainwaring

Postby phsvm » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:41 pm

There's only one birth registration in Burton for the correct time period but looking at the signatures I'd say it's not the same person.

What do others think?
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Re: Alfred Mainwaring

Postby avaline » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:03 pm

I think he almost certainly served in the Boer War. The militia papers state he attested for 6 years and was in the 4th Bn, who definitely served in the Cape Colony:

https://www.militaryimages.net/media/no ... -bn.66767/

I had also read that during the Boer Wars the entire Militia force was embodied, much like the TF in WW1, although someone may correct me on that.
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Re: Alfred Mainwaring

Postby avaline » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:15 pm

Ive also just noticed an article in the Lichfield Mercury dated 23 July 1915 about Alfred Mainwaring, Miner of Rawnsley, charged with stealing a bicycle on 18 June. The report says he had served 12 years with the army and was about to be re-sworn when arrested. He was bound over on the understanding that he enlisted.

A Rawnsely address is given on the WW1 enlistment form, which was signed not long after the theft.
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Re: Alfred Mainwaring

Postby phsvm » Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:32 am

Avaline - thanks for finding these.

Whilst I think you are probably correct in suggesting he did serve in the Boer War his papers don't confirm this. In fact they really don't say anything as most of them seem to be missing. It's only the later newspaper report that states he served for 12 years that suggests this. Do correct me if you think I've missed something.

I could only find his papers for his attestation for the Militia in 1899. Where did you find his WW1 papers?

I'd also done a search for him in newspapers and come up with nothing so that's a great find. His 1911 census entry lists him as a 'mine fitter' so this would tie in with his occupation as stated in the article.
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Re: Alfred Mainwaring

Postby avaline » Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:46 am

phsvm wrote:Avaline - thanks for finding these.
I could only find his papers for his attestation for the Militia in 1899. Where did you find his WW1 papers?


I found his WW1 service record on FMP, and after a bit of a struggle have also found it on Ancestry but indexed under George William Gough !!!

EDIT: Just to add that the copy on FMP is quite a bit clearer.
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