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Trying to find birth of Gr/grandmother Harriet Bradshaw Belf

Postby Hendren » Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:24 pm

I first come across Harriet in Belfast in 1867 when she has her first child Frances with her husband George Thomas Stringer, he was English and was born in Shoreditch and they are living in Pilot Street, where George is a Publican.
They have a second child in 1870 and then Frances dies age 4 and they move to Liverpool, England where they had three more children and live the rest of their lives there.

On the 81/91/ and 1901 census, Harriet has her place of birth as Belfast 1844, I had trouble finding her on the 1911 census, but eventually found her visiting her sister Margaret in Belfast.

I have Margaret's marriage in 1865 to Henry Cusin in Belfast, where George Thomas Stringer is a witness and Margaret's Father is named as Thomas Bradshaw, a Carpenter.
Margaret was widowed in 1895 and then married a Jonathon Littlewood and on the 1911 census is living at Meadow Bank Street, Belfast where Harriet visits her, and both are described as widowed.

I have been unable to find a birth record for Harriet and would appreciate any help.

Maureen.
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Re: Trying to find birth of Gr/grandmother Harriet Bradshaw

Postby shanew147 » Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:52 pm

Registration of births started here in Ireland in 1864, so you would need to search for a baptism. What denomination was the church where they married, also what place of residence was given for Margaret on the cert ?

Edited : on the 1911 census for Margaret & Harriet they are both listed as 'read only' and the form was filled in by the enumerator. The sisters are recorded as Church of Ireland, and both born Co. Armagh ?

Margaret is at the same street in 1901, this time the form was filled in by her husband Jonathan, his place of birth is given as 'England', Margaret's as 'Armagh'.
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Re: Trying to find birth of Gr/grandmother Harriet Bradshaw

Postby ianbee » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:26 pm

Some apparent info on Thomas Bradshaw, Carpenter, daughter Margaret, and others, has been gathered here
http://www.bradshaw-ulster.co.uk/Family ... #Topofpage

Has transcription of a 1870 death certificate of Thomas Bradshaw, which I can't find in the indexes!
EDIT - it may be the one in 1871
They seem to have identified a different Margaret (Cousins) in 1901 and 1911! Nee Ferguson?
It's not entirely convincing!

Also in their database is an Ellen Bradshaw who married John Mills, 7.11.77 in Belfast, we can see the copy certificate on irishgenealogy.ie (father Thomas Bradshaw, Carpenter - is it the same one?)
She might be in Belfast in 1901, age 56, C of I, born County Armagh
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... et/950415/
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Re: Trying to find birth of Gr/grandmother Harriet Bradshaw

Postby MayHam » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:26 pm

Just to confirm what everyone has already said, please see below. Interesting, that Margaret Littlewood appears to be buried in a plot owned by (her brother-in-law?) John Mills.

Date of Marriage:
26-Nov-1865

Parish / District:
BELFAST

County:
Co. Antrim

Henry
Cusin

Margaret
Bradshaw

Address:
Belfast

Belfast

Denomination:
Church of Ireland

Church of Ireland

Occupation:
TENTER

Age:
27

26

Status:
Bachelor (Previously unmarried)

Spinster (Previously unmarried)

Husband's Father

Wife's Father

Name:
James
Cusin

Thomas
Bradshaw

Occupation:
MILL WORKER

CARPENTER

Witness 1

Witness 2

Name:
George J
Stringer

Anne Jane
Gardener

Church: ST ANNE'S Church of Ireland
BY LICENCE REV T F MILLER.

http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/view_detail ... own&page=1


Name:
Frances Hanna
Stringer
Date of Death:
25-Nov-1871

Age:
4
Parish / District:
City Cemetry, Belfast

Address:
35 Pilot Street
County:
Co. Antrim

Denomination:
Na

Occupation:
NONE
Sex:
Female

Cause of Death: NONE GIVEN
GRAVE OWNER: G J STRINGER FEE: £0-10-0 .

http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/view_detail ... own&page=1

Date of Marriage:
07-Nov-1877

Parish / District:
BELFAST

County:
Co. Antrim

Name:
John
Mills

Ellen
Bradshaw

Address:
1 Dock St

77 Fleming St

Denomination:
Church of Ireland

Church of Ireland

Occupation:
PILOT

Age:
Full Age (Over 21)

Full Age (Over 21)

Status:
Bachelor (Previously unmarried)

Spinster (Previously unmarried)

Husband's Father

Wife's Father

Name:
Robert
Mills

Thomas
Bradshaw

Occupation:
PILOT

CARPENTER

Witness 1

Witness 2

Name:
James
Walker

Elizabeth
Drake

Church: ST PAUL'S Church of Ireland
BY LICENCE MINISTER C SCOTT.

http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/view_detail ... own&page=3


Name:
Henry
Cousins
Date of Death:
31-Jul-1895

Age:
55
Parish / District:
City Cemetry, Belfast

Address:
31 Surrey Street
County:
Co. Antrim

Status:
Married
Denomination:
Presbyterian

Occupation:
NONE
Sex:
Male

Cause of Death: EXHAUSTION
GRAVE OWNER: SARAH COUSIN FEE: £0-7-6 .

http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/view_detail ... own&page=1

Date of Marriage:
10-Jul-1899

Parish / District:
BELFAST

County:
Co. Antrim

Name:
Jonathan
Littlewood

Margaret
Cusin

Address:
Belfast

Belfast

Denomination:
Presbyterian

Presbyterian

Occupation:
BOILERMAKER

Age:
Full Age (Over 21)

Full Age (Over 21)

Status:
Widower (Male)

Widow (Female)

Husband's Father

Wife's Father

Name:
George
Littlewood

Thomas
Bradshaw

Occupation:
BOILERMAKER

CARPENTER

Witness 1

Witness 2

Name:
Mary
Clewlo

James
Chambers

Church: MALONE Presbyterian
BY LICENCE REV J W GIBSON.

http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/view_detail ... own&page=1


Name:
Ellen
Mills
Date of Death:
18-Jun-1906

Age:
54
Parish / District:
City Cemetry, Belfast

Address:
48 Victor Street
County:
Co. Antrim

Status:
Married
Denomination:
Church of Ireland

Occupation:
NONE
Sex:
Female

Cause of Death: BRONCHITIS
GRAVE OWNER: ROBERT MCCOY FEE: £0-7-6 .

http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/view_detail ... own&page=1

Name:
Margaret
Littlewood
Date of Death:
31-Jan-1916

Age:
83
Parish / District:
City Cemetry, Belfast

Address:
33 Meadowbank Street
County:
Co. Antrim

Status:
Widow (Female)
Denomination:
Church of Ireland

Occupation:
NONE
Sex:
Female

Cause of Death: INTERNAL HAEMORRHAGE
GRAVE OWNER: JOHN MILLS FEE: £0-7-6 .

http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/view_detail ... own&page=1
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Re: Trying to find birth of Gr/grandmother Harriet Bradshaw

Postby Hendren » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:01 pm

Thank you all for your replies.

The 1911 census is the only one where Harriet has Armagh as her place of birth, she has Antrim down on all the others.

That is interesting about Margaret's burial, I have not seen that before and haven't come across a Ellen or the connection to a John Mills, so that is great, defiantly something for me to look into.

I have not been able to find a marriage for Harriet and George Thomas Stringer, the only one with those names appears in New York in 1864, the time scale is about right, but no way of knowing if it is them.

Many thanks,
Maureen.
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