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The life of John Wilson

Postby Mariner Aus » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:20 am

Morning everyone,

I'm trying to find out more about the life of my great grandfather's eldest brother John Wilson (Coal miner)
born 8th Feb 1880 to Dipton collierley - Lanchester - Durham
son of: John Wilson (Deputy in a coal mine) and Hannah Gibson

He is listed with his father John and siblings Albert and Elizabeth Alice at 27 Joicey Terrace, Oxhill in the 1911 census.

I know John served in WW1 as a Private in the 27th battalion Northumberland fusiliers and a Sapper in two different Royal Engineer units. His Army service numbers are as follows:
27/1307, W.R./509970 and 362319.

I don't believe his service record exists but I'm not 100% sure either.

After WW1, I can't find any trace of him except for three addresses on his younger brother Albert Wilson's (1892-1916) WW1 service record which states: 82 Joicey Terrace, Oxhill, Stanley, County Durham in 1918 and also 26 Ridley Street, Blyth in 1920 on an earlier page in the same service record. And finally listed living at 64 New Row, New Delaval, Newsham (Blyth), Northumberland

In the 1939 census, I can't find him at all.

The only thing I can go on is that he isn't listed with the rest of his siblings in a newspaper clipping at my great grandfather's funeral in 1940 at New Kyo.

Any info about his time in the army, who he married, kids, when he died, would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again

Regards

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Re: The life of John Wilson

Postby avaline » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:14 pm

This may be him, although the address differs:

Morpeth Herald 20 August 1937
A verdict of 'Accidentally Instantaneously Killed' was returned at the inquest at Newsham on Saturday on John Wilson (57), a coal hewer, of 48 New Row, New Delaval, who was fatally injured by a fall of stone while working in the New Delaval pit on Friday Morning.

It's quite a long article, and his widow is named as Frances May Wilson.
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Re: The life of John Wilson

Postby avaline » Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:28 pm

If this is him, then he married Frances May Common (born 1894, Tynemouth) in 1920 in the Tynemouth Registration District.

Frances in on the 1939 as a widow with two children (one redacted), and remarried in 1942 to William Ree, before passing away in 1952.
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Re: The life of John Wilson

Postby avaline » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:27 pm

I can’t find a service record for him either, but his medal roll card shows that he didn’t receive a 1914/15 star, meaning he didn’t enter a theatre of war until 1916 or later.

The likelihood is therefore that he was conscripted under the Military Service Act 1916, although as a miner he would initially have been able to claim exemption. As the war progressed, however, more men were needed and so the Miners Federation agreed that certain classes of miners could be 'combed out'. In September 1917 it was agreed that those entering the mines after 4 Aug 1914 would be first, and that the scheme would also apply to all unmarried Class A (fit) workers aged 18-41.

I can't find any definitive reference to when John joined up but based on the above it could have been as late as 1917.

The number 27/1307 indicates he was initially in the 27th Battalion of the Northumberland Fusiliers (4th Tyneside Irish) before being transferred to the Royal Engineers, where the Prefix WR indicates the Royal Engineers (Waterways & Railways).

The medal rolls have an indecipherable scribble where the code for Theatre of War should be, so unfortunately I can’t work out which country he served in, sorry.
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Re: The life of John Wilson

Postby johnf04 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:06 am

panel123 wrote:John Wilson was the author of many books. Early in his mission he started a periodical about religion, society, culture and European thought, called The Oriental Christian Spectator, which ran from 1830 to 1862. In 1838 he wrote A Memoir of Mrs. Margret Wilson, and in 1850 a Memoir of the Cave Temples and Monasteries and Ancient Remains in Western India. In 1858 he wrote, India Three Thousand Years Ago. As the years went on he wrote many books, including Parsi Religion (1843), Evangelisation of India (1849), History of the Suppression of Female Infanticide in Western India (1855), Aboriginal Tribes of The Bombay Presidency (1876) and Indian Caste (1877).

As an archaeologist, he wrote the 1847 Lands of the Bible: Visited and Described,[2] the 1861 Caves of Karla (on the Karla Caves), and the 1875 Religious Excavations of Western India: Buddhist, Brahamanical and Jaina. He also published a small account about the origins of the Bene Israel Jewish community of the Konkan rigion in 1838.

This is hardly likely to be the John Wilson of the current topic.
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Re: The life of John Wilson

Postby Mariner Aus » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:23 am

Thank you Avaline for all your terrific work. I believe you have found the correct person, as his son Albert b.1923 is listed in the 1939 with his wife Frances. Albert b.1892 was his younger brother and killed in WW1.

Thank you again

Kind regards

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