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Looking for more information on William Alfred Bowden 1895

Postby vito74 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:37 am

My 2nd great uncle William Alfred Bowden born 1895 to Frederick T W Bowden and Rose E Bowden around the Chelsea area. He is on the 1901 census with his family but not on the 1911 one. I can not find a death for a William in between 1901-1911. So where did he go? Was he one of the surviving children of Frederick and Rose? Did he marry and when did he die?


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Re: Looking for more information on William Alfred Bowden 18

Postby woodchal » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:21 am

The GRO index has BOWDEN, WILLIAM ALFRED. Mothers maiden name BURGESS - GRO Reference: 1895 J Quarter in CHELSEA Volume 01A Page 365.

Does this fit with what you know? You could order the certificate to find out a little more.
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Re: Looking for more information on William Alfred Bowden 18

Postby woodchal » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:34 am

There is a William Alfred Bowden in the UK, Mechanical Engineer Records, 1847-1930, with a birth date 9 Jul 1893. This would appear to tie into another record in the GRO index

BOWDEN, WILLIAM ALFRED, Mothers maiden name HERRING, GRO Reference: 1893 S Quarter in ST SAVIOUR LONDON Volume 01D Page 170. (St Saviour is around Southwark area)

If you know the maiden name you can get the right certificate, if not you might need to get both.
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Re: Looking for more information on William Alfred Bowden 18

Postby woodchal » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:44 am

I have found a William Arthur son of Frederick and Rose on 1901 census transcribed by ancestry as Bourden

William Bourden [William Bowden], Age: 6
Father: Frederick Bourden
Mother: Rose Bourden
Birth Place: Chelsea, London, England
Civil Parish: Bloomsbury St George and St Giles in the Fields

The family is

Frederick Bourden 35
Rose Bourden 35
Mabel Bourden 9
Frederick Bourden 7
William Bourden 6
George Bourden 3
Baden Bourden 9/12
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Re: Looking for more information on William Alfred Bowden 18

Postby woodchal » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:47 am

I think it is clear that the transcription should be Bowden

[Edit] Whoops, just reread you original post and realised its the 1911 census you cant find.
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Re: Looking for more information on William Alfred Bowden 18

Postby phsvm » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:50 am

The 1911 census shows Frederick and Ellen in West Ham and lists them as having had 12 children of which 6 survived.

Mabel, Frederick, George, Baden and Albert are still with them so there's 5 of the six survivors. You now need to idenfity who the other 7 were and which of them you can find in 1911 and that'll tell you if WIlliam Alfred was still alive.

The 1891 shows the couple with two earlier children - Rose and Lillian so that gives you 8 names of their 12 children.

There are 12 births registered under the name Bowden in Chelsea between 1887 (the married 25 Dec 1886) and the 1911 census although a few of them are a bit suspicious unless Ellen had twins and triplets so I'd check out all of them as a next step.
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Re: Looking for more information on William Alfred Bowden 18

Postby woodchal » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:30 am

Have you seen this possible death, not too far from West Ham?

Name: William A Bowden
Death Age: 42
Birth Date: abt 1895
Registration Date: Dec 1937
Registration district: essex South Western
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 232
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Re: Looking for more information on William Alfred Bowden 18

Postby elsabels » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:40 pm

Rose Ellen C Bowden
b 1888
d1900

Name: Lilian Mary Bowden
Baptism Date: 1 Apr 1892
Baptism Place: Chelsea St Saviour, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Father: Frederick Thomas Watson Bowden
Mother: Rose Ellen Bowden
Died 1898

Name: Mabel Bowden
Baptism Date: 1 Apr 1892
Baptism Place: Chelsea St Saviour, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Father: Frederick Thomas Watson Bowden


Mother: Rose Ellen Bowden
Died Dec 1919 as Mabel Stopfer

St Saviour, Chelsea
William Alfred BOWDEN
Baptised 7 Oct 1896
Father Frederick
Mother Rose Ellen
26 North Street
Coach builder

Ada May BOWDEN
Baptised 7 Oct 1896
Father Frederick
Mother Rose Ellen
26 North Street
Coach builder
Died 1897

Ernest Bowden
Baptism Date: 11 Mar 1899
Baptism Place: Chelsea St Saviour,
Died 1899

Potential
Name: William Bowden
Death Age: 74
Birth Date: 29 Sep 1895 You will need the birth certificate to confirm
Registration Date: Mar 1970
Registration district: Kingston upon Thames
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5c
Page: 2407
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Re: Looking for more information on William Alfred Bowden 18

Postby vito74 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:25 pm

Received the William Alfred Bowden PDF death certificate. It was the 1937 one. His informant was G Bowden. They lived at 23 Suffolk Road. The same as George's one on 1939 register and Where Frederick John Bowden lived when he married Lilian A Chambers.


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