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Help needed with Irish research

Postby jackied » Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:07 pm

I'm looking for help finding my 2nd great grandfather, Hugh Mccleery. His son John and several generations of his family lived at 12 Francis Street in Dundalk Co Louth. The only mention I can find of a Hugh in that area is of a man renting a house and yard. All my research seems to end at a brick wall!!
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Re: Help needed with Irish research

Postby AdrianB38 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:59 pm

With no dates or further specific data, I can't be certain but I rather suspect that your brick wall was created by the fire at the Irish Public Record Office in Dublin in 1922. This destroyed all the surviving Irish censuses prior to 1901, for instance.

I suggest that you go to https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/, take copious cups of coffee, and try to read what you can do, with whatever it is that you already know.
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Re: Help needed with Irish research

Postby jackied » Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:13 am

Thank you Adrian. Much as I suspected. Do you think going to Dundalk and looking at Parish records if I can find any would be of any use? I will do as you suggest and look at the website you suggested.
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Re: Help needed with Irish research

Postby shanew147 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:13 am

jackied wrote:....Do you think going to Dundalk and looking at Parish records if I can find any would be of any use?.....


Records for the Catholic parish of Dundalk are available on the National Library website as images, and these are indexed on FMP and Ancestry. Baptism and marriage records for this parish go back to about 1790.

Church of Ireland parish records for the parish are also available, but not online anywhere as far as I know. Records go back to 1729 for baptisms, 1755 for marriages and 1727 for death burials, the historic records for the parish seem to be in local custody, i.e. with the parish.

What's your source for Hugh McLeery at 12 Francis Street, Dundalk ?
Griffith's valuation dated 1854 for this area, shows a William Campbell at number 12 and no McLeery households. The 1901 census shows a John Mc Cleery, coachbuilder at site 13 on Francis street (the numbers are enumerator references), he is shown as Church of Ireland, his wife and children all listed as Presbyterian, all in the household born Co. Louth. The household is shown on the same street in 1911 at enumerator site number 15 (there's no actual street number on the form).

Edited : records for Dundalk are also available in PRONI on microfilm, same dates as those listed above - ref. is MIC1/204
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Re: Help needed with Irish research

Postby shanew147 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:48 am

John McCleery and Jane McFerran married in Castlebellingham Co. Louth at the Presbyterian Church in December 1890, and gives his father as John McCleery, clerk, so possibly a different family....unless your Hugh is further back
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Re: Help needed with Irish research

Postby jackied » Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:36 pm

Thank you all for your help. Hugh Mccleery( the man I am trying to find ) is the father of John Mccleery ( 1824-1912) who lived with his family in Francis Street. The family were Church of Ireland until later when one of the sons married a catholic and changed his religion. Hugh was listed as father onJohn’s wedding certificate when he married Nannie Usher in Dublin in 1858.
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Re: Help needed with Irish research

Postby shanew147 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:54 pm

looks like the the John Mc(C)leery I found at Francis Street, Dundalk then is grandson of this Hugh, father's occupation matches.

John snr. seems to have moved around a bit, which could make your search difficult, at least one son was born in Belfast in 1871.

Do you know where John snr. was born ?
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Re: Help needed with Irish research

Postby jackied » Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:22 pm

I’m sorry I don’t know where he was born. It might make things easier if I did. The son born in Belfast was my grandfather.
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Re: Help needed with Irish research

Postby ianbee » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:00 pm

County Tyrone, according to the 1911 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... ue/230101/
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Re: Help needed with Irish research

Postby ianbee » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:48 pm

Or County Antrim, according to the 1901 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... t/1245538/
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