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Lily Helen Jukes marriage... when..? where..?

Postby Cachalot6972 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:22 pm

Yet another conundrum for the combined experience of the forum members!

Lily Helena Jukes b.25 Jan 1908 in Lambeth to Robert William Jukes & Susannah Martha (nee Sennett).

She appears in the 1939 Register as single and a restaurant manageress living in Camberwell. There's a married name above her own of Newcomb, with a date of 29.1.49 (which may or not be the date of marriage). So far though, I can't find any marriage for her. I've tried all the usual suspects but no variation of Newcomb and/or Jukes seems to work for any year. Nothing on ScotlandsPeople either.

There are two children on Fmp named Newcomb with a mms of Jukes born 1949 & 1950 born in Oldbury district, which seems a fair distance from where she was in 1939 and where she died: Bromley, Kent with the surname of Newcomb, in 1994.

Another one of life's little mysteries. I shall come back to this later though; it's wine o'clock here in France..!
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Re: Lily Helen Jukes marriage... when..? where..?

Postby neergydna » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:03 pm

Phil

I have found the marriage in Oldbury in June 1941 quarter of Eileen Jukes and Douglas W Newcomb. However, on checking the births, there seem to be several Eileen Jukes born in the Birmingham area. It is possible that the births that you have found are not connected to Lily.

Do you know the name of Lily's husband? Have you got her death certificate as this would give you more information?

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Re: Lily Helen Jukes marriage... when..? where..?

Postby woodchal » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:21 pm

No real progress, but I'll just chip in...

In addition to your Lily Helena there are a number of Jukes born in the midlands in 1908. One called Eileen - An Eileen Jukes marries a Douglas Newcomb in Oldbury registered in 2nd qtr 1941 they may be the source of your two Oldbury birth records. The births would make the mother quite old at 41 and 42

Lily Helena appears to show up as Lily Ellenor in the 1911 census living in Camberwell with correct parents, with Lambeth as the birth place.
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Re: Lily Helen Jukes marriage... when..? where..?

Postby ianbee » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:01 pm

1949 electoral register has
Edward Newcomb
Lily H Newcomb
at 68 Adys Road, Dulwich

Which is the address Lily Jukes was living in 1939
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Re: Lily Helen Jukes marriage... when..? where..?

Postby ianbee » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:07 pm

1964 electoral register has
Edward Newcomb
Lily H Newcomb
at Ivanhoe, Berry's Green Road, (ward) Cudham, constituency Orpington
(soon to be in the London Borough of Bromley)
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Re: Lily Helen Jukes marriage... when..? where..?

Postby ianbee » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:10 pm

ianbee wrote:Which is the address Lily Jukes was living in 1939

AEA (if that's what it says) = Camberwell
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Re: Lily Helen Jukes marriage... when..? where..?

Postby Cachalot6972 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:55 am

Many thanks for the replies, the electoral roll info is very useful.
I read on another post about a marriage that couldn't be found so perhaps this is another one of those that seems to have fallen through a crack in the system.
Unfortunately Lily didn't leave a will, so no clues from that either.

I'd found the other Jukes/Newcomb marriage in Oldbury and got all excited until I noticed the wrong names and year; ah well...

Lily is a little way down the relationship totem pole (2nd cousin) so I'll save looking for her marriage for a rainy day.

Thanks again...
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Re: Lily Helen Jukes marriage... when..? where..?

Postby sparrow » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:26 pm

Edward is living at the same address as Lily from 1946 onwards.
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