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George William Flint

Postby FlintK » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:31 am

Hello,
Trying to find out what happened to George William. Born 1869 . Found on all census until 1911 aged 42 Horsham. Found WW1 Medal Rolls. States he had an OBE ? not sure if you can find out how he got it ? His wife Lucy died in 1963 but can't find a death for him.
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Re: George William Flint

Postby beacon » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:56 pm

On the 1939 Register there is a Flint household at 73 Shooters Hill Road, Greenwich with George W born 19 Nov 1868, retired manager, Ministry of Labour, his wife Lucy, a boarding house keeper and three children, Winifred b 1902, Yvonne b 1910 and Peter b 1922.

There is a death for a George W Flint b 1869 registered in Greenwich in 1940.


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Re: George William Flint

Postby JMcK » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:27 pm

If he was OBE, wouldn’t it be in The Gazette? But I cannot see it. So far, anyway.
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Re: George William Flint

Postby AdrianB38 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:16 pm

Well, assuming that I have the right chap (Captain & Quarter-Master in the 4th Sussex Regiment), officialdom certainly agrees that he was an OBE - before July 1921 at least. I searched the London Gazette on "G W Flint" and straight-away hit https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/32443/supplement/6933

Sussex R. 4th (D.F.) Bn. - Temp. Qr.Mr. & Capt. G. W. Flint, O.B.E. relinquishes his commission. 22 July 1921.


Having said that, I have absolutely no idea how to find the announcement in the Gazette. I reckon that one would need to understand the basic format of the announcements to have any chance of success - quite possibly the page containing his name might have no indication of what the names are there for, which makes the search tricky.
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Re: George William Flint

Postby AdrianB38 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:23 pm

Was he a sort of accountant / finance chap?

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/28467/page/1365 mentions the Horsham Drill Hall & Club Company Ltd (In Voluntary Liquidation) for which the Liquidator is one GW Flint, 33 London Road, Horsham.
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Re: George William Flint

Postby JMcK » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:16 pm

He’s in the newspapers as a colour sergeant for the Horsham volunteers. I can see no mention of the OBE there though. Or at least the OCR isn’t finding it.
1911 he is a law clerk.
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Re: George William Flint

Postby AdrianB38 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:51 pm

I had no idea until looking at this, that the Order of the British Empire "was established on 4 June 1917 by King George V," (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_British_Empire). So any Gazetting of him will be 1917-1921 and no earlier.

Further,Wikipedia adds that the Order "five classes across both civil and military divisions" - so he might well have been awarded the OBE for his military work, in which case he'll be in the military division. Not that that helps us find him?
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Re: George William Flint

Postby JMcK » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:57 am

Note to self. The Gazette search engine works much better on laptop than it does on ipad.

G. W. Flint appointed a public auditor for 1910 https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/iss ... 6/page/145

to be Temp Quarter Master with rank of captain OBE already here 9th April 1921
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/iss ... ement/3263

Death notice West Sussex County Times 19 January 1940 says died 15th January, 73 Shooters Hill Road, Blackheath.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/vie ... 1113%2f067 Manager of local Employment Bureau, Horsham. Was assaulted by a client.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/vie ... 0522%2f047 another client trying to get more 'out of work donation' than he was entitled to.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/vie ... 0803%2f048 West Sussex County Times 03 August 1918 "Qtr Master and Hon Lieut G. W. Flint promoted to Captain.... at present on the French Front" No mention of OBE so narrows the search down slightly

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/vie ... 0118%2f058 West Sussex County Times 18 January 1919. He's home on a fortnight's leave. Regiment moving into Rhineland probably by train. He has completed 30 years service with the Battalion.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/vie ... 1009%2f086 West Sussex County Times 09 October 1920 He's present at the unveiling of the war memorial and he has his OBE

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/vie ... 0522%2f080 West Sussex County Times 22 May 1920 Reunion Smoker. He has his OBE here

so awarded between 18 Jan 1919 and 22 May 1920.
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Re: George William Flint

Postby JMcK » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:01 am

Found it! https://www.thegazette.co.uk/Edinburgh/ ... /page/4044

12 December 1919

in recognition of valuable services rendered in connection with military operations in France and Flanders. to be dated 3rd June 1919
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Re: George William Flint

Postby AdrianB38 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:15 am

Well done.

I think I'm right in saying that the Quarter Master is incredibly important. Basically, they ensure that the unit has its supplies, without which it starves and is useless. One of the references found referred to Quarter Master and Honorary Lieutenant. Again, not totally sure how it works, but I think that this means substantively he's not an officer, but the job that he does is so important that he gets treated as an officer (a lieutenant here). Whether the Honorary Lieutenant appointment is supposed to be found in the London Gazette, like a regular promotion to lieutenant would be, I've no idea.

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