Moderator Control Panel ]

Sidney Tokeley Turner was born on 31st March 1889 in Helions

A problem shared is a problem halved. Post your brick walls here and see whether you can offer advice to others

Sidney Tokeley Turner was born on 31st March 1889 in Helions

Postby pforkes » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:06 pm

Sidney Tokeley Turner was born on 31st March 1889 in Helions Bumpstead, Essex. He had a twin sister Lizzie Tokeley Turner (31st Mar 1889-24th July 1893).

His parents were not married and were Walter William Tokeley (1868-1916) and Emily Turner (25 Mar 1886-???). The registrar had perhaps mistakenly, added the name of his father, even though his parents were not married.

The 1891 census has him living with his mother’s parents in Helions Bumpstead (his name has been incorrectly transcribed as Sidney Sokley Turner).

After that he appears to disappear. Perhaps one of you can help me to find what happened to him?

Thank you in advance,

Peter
pforkes
 
Posts: 177
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:23 pm

Re: Sidney Tokeley Turner was born on 31st March 1889 in Hel

Postby KayFarndon » Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:08 pm

For Emily Turner's birth year, did you mean 1868? Cannot be 1886!
As Sidney is living with his grand parents on the 1891 census, it could mean that his mother Emily had died.
Do you have the birth certificates for the twins Sidney and Lizzie?
KayFarndon
 
Posts: 532
Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:44 am

Re: Sidney Tokeley Turner was born on 31st March 1889 in Hel

Postby phsvm » Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:46 pm

Kay - Look at the post about Emily Turner "Can you help me to find out what happened to Emily Turner?" - the two need to be read together.
phsvm
 
Posts: 677
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:14 pm

Re: Sidney Tokeley Turner was born on 31st March 1889 in Hel

Postby pforkes » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:09 pm

For Emily Turner's birth year, did you mean 1868? Cannot be 1886!
As Sidney is living with his grand parents on the 1891 census, it could mean that his mother Emily had died.
Do you have the birth certificates for the twins Sidney and Lizzie?


Emily Turner's birth was 25th March, 1866 in Little Cornard, Suffolk.

I do have the birth certificates for both Sidney and Lizzie.
pforkes
 
Posts: 177
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:23 pm

Re: Sidney Tokeley Turner was born on 31st March 1889 in Hel

Postby sdup26 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:37 pm

Emily's father reported Lizzie's death - did Emily register the birth of the twins?
sdup26
 
Posts: 1476
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:34 pm

Re: Sidney Tokeley Turner was born on 31st March 1889 in Hel

Postby pforkes » Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:09 pm

Emily did register the birth the twins but she did not do so until 25th May1889 and the twins were born on 31st March 1889.
pforkes
 
Posts: 177
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:23 pm

Re: Sidney Tokeley Turner was born on 31st March 1889 in Hel

Postby sdup26 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:08 pm

Presumably you've ruled out a possible death for Emily following the births? Or a marriage? I can't find either, but you may have had more luck.
However, in searching the 1891 census for her, there's this entry:
Emma E Turner, aged 24 (b 1867), housemaid/domestic servant, born Suffolk, Burchall Vale.
I can't find Burchall Vale, nor Buxhall Vale, as transcribed on ancestry, on gazetteers. Can anyone else? If not, is it possible that if this lady's place of birth is incorrect, so was her name? Could Emily have been mis-heard as Emma E?
sdup26
 
Posts: 1476
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:34 pm

Re: Sidney Tokeley Turner was born on 31st March 1889 in Hel

Postby paulr1949 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:49 am

A link from dusty docs.com gives Buxhall as a small parish south west of Stowmarket. The church is st Mary's
This might be a link to the records on family search
https://familysearch.org/search/record/ ... %202221801)


Paul
Paul
paulr1949
 
Posts: 139
Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:13 pm

Re: Sidney Tokeley Turner was born on 31st March 1889 in Hel

Postby sdup26 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:31 pm

Well spotted Paul - Emma Elizabeth Turner b Buxhall, and parents Charles and Emma, so definitely not the Emily Turner being researched by pforkes.
sdup26
 
Posts: 1476
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:34 pm


Return to General research queries


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests