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Re: LANE from Abbyfeale, Limerick, b. 1830s

Postby Sylcec » Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:30 pm

Yes - the Ellen M -in northern NSW is a different person. She dies 1883. I suspect that 'our' Ellen is the person who dies in 1881, Newtown, parents unknown by informant.
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Re: LANE from Abbyfeale, Limerick, b. 1830s

Postby Sylcec » Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:56 pm

Young Ellen Lane becomes more interesting by the minute - back in 1851 she reported an assault by her employer,
Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954), Tuesday 13 May 1851, page 2
ASSAULT, WITH INTENT, &c- George Doddery, of Cudgee, appeared yesterday before the Police Magistrate to answer an information preferred on oath by Ellen Lane, his servant, an Irish orphan immigrant, aged 16, charging him with assaulting her with intent, &c, on the evening of the 6th instant. The inquiry lasted the whole of the afternoon of yesterday Mr. Robert Johnson appearing on the part of the Immigration Board, and Mr. G. R. Nichols for the defence. The particulars are unfit for publication. The girl admitted, that upon attending confession at St. Mary's on Easter Eve, the priest had told her, if she wished to save her soul, to leave a family of heretics; and that, although the offence she complained of was committed on the Monday, she made no mention of it to any one until the following Wednesday. Mr. Dowling said that he did not consider the girl's statement would authorise him to send the case to a jury, and he therefore dismissed it. Copies of the depositions, with a view to ulterior proceedings, were asked for on both sides.
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Re: LANE from Abbyfeale, Limerick, b. 1830s

Postby ianbee » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:21 pm

Ellen seems to have had a very eventful time.
They didn't believe her?

I'm pleased you are finding something in NSW, because it's much harder going in Limerick!
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Re: LANE from Abbyfeale, Limerick, b. 1830s

Postby Sylcec » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:51 am

I thought you might like an update on the LANEs and HYLANDs. I have now received transcripts of the marriage of John LANE to Mary HYLAND 29 Jan 1859 - pretty well useless, as the priest has not collected or recorded any personal details - however, it did record that Mary Hyland had permission of her guardian Edward Hyland! A brief search turned up that he (Edmund on shipping list) had arrived on the same ship as his sister Mary - they both record same parents and pob so am safe in calling them siblings! So, he would have been born about 1831/32, native place again Kilbehenny, Co.Limerick.

Also have the death transcripts for John and Mary Lane. Now, although these are very informative in NSW, we have to bear in mind that the info is only as good as the knowledge of the informant:
John dies 28 April 1914, age 82; pob: Abbeyfeale; parents: James Lane and Margaret Murphy (which leaves me with the question was Margaret Hickie previously Margaret Murphy, or is it a different person? suspect this will remain with a ?)

Mary Lane (nee Hyland) d. 10 June 1924 - pob said to be: "Mitchells Town, Ireland" - there is a townland by this name, but don't think it relates to Kilbehenny. Parents said to be John Hyland and Johanna COYLY.
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Re: LANE from Abbyfeale, Limerick, b. 1830s

Postby ianbee » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:56 pm

Hi Sylvia
It's got to be this one? Please!
Ireland Roman Catholic Parish Marriages
First name: John
Last name: Hyland
Address: Mitchelstown
Marriage year: 1830
Marriage date: 7 Feb 1830
Parish: Kilbehenny
Spouse's first name: Jone
Spouse's last name: Kiely
Spouse's address: Shrovemore
County: Limerick

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls ... 6/mode/1up
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Re: LANE from Abbyfeale, Limerick, b. 1830s

Postby Sylcec » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:12 pm

ianbee - sheer brilliance!!! I couldn't even find a townland called Mitchelstown in Kilbehenny.

However, now done some trawling around maps and have a clearer idea - so Kilbehenny in Limerick abuts Co.Cork, and Mitchelstown in Cork, abuts Kilbehenny in Limerick. Also found reference to townland of Shrovemore in 1823 Tithe Applotment books - mention of a Thomas and a James Kieley - one of them probably father to Johanna. However, will let it rest now - think we have achieved more than expected.
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