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Amendments to 1939 register

Postby phsvm » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:50 pm

The 1939 register lists Beryl J Smith dob 29 July 1926 living at Clitherow Avenue, Ealing.

Written above her surname in green ink is the word ANDREWS, some numbers and letters and what looks like a date 18.1.76.

Further up the page Ethel Monger has the word BURTON written above her surname.

I thought initially this was an indication of married surnames but it doesn't appear to be.

I know there is a tradition for the Head of MI6 to use green ink but I can't imagine that he was going through the register and marking these individuals out as potential spies!

Can anyone enlighen me as to what these amendments mean?
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Re: Amendments to 1939 register

Postby peter kent » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:16 pm

They are married names - you can easily check with FreeBMD.

The register was used by the NHS and was maintained until about 1990 (but not necessarily consistently). I don't know of any guide to help to interpret the various manuscript notes.
Also see http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help ... -register/
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Re: Amendments to 1939 register

Postby ksouthall » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:48 pm

They could also signify name changes after divorce, cohabitation, or a change of name by deed poll (or just informally).
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Re: Amendments to 1939 register

Postby phsvm » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:05 pm

Thanks for the clarification. I'd thought they were married names but when I checked on FreeBMD and FMP I couldn't find a marriage between Beryl and a Mr Andrews.

For anyone who is interested I have just found these 2 articles by Peter Calver of Lost Cousins which give a lot of background to the regsiter and how to get the most out of it.

http://1939register.info
https://www.lostcousins.com/newsletters ... pecial.htm
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Re: Amendments to 1939 register

Postby Guy » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:27 pm

phsvm wrote:The 1939 register lists Beryl J Smith dob 29 July 1926 living at Clitherow Avenue, Ealing.

Written above her surname in green ink is the word ANDREWS, some numbers and letters and what looks like a date 18.1.76.

Further up the page Ethel Monger has the word BURTON written above her surname.

I thought initially this was an indication of married surnames but it doesn't appear to be.

I know there is a tradition for the Head of MI6 to use green ink but I can't imagine that he was going through the register and marking these individuals out as potential spies!

Can anyone enlighen me as to what these amendments mean?


From the entries I have seen a name change on marriage is normally carried out in blue ink, a name change in the case of a minor when his/her mother re-marries is in green ink a correction of an error in red ink and some other changes made in black pencil but I don't know the implication of these.

The green and blue ink changes normally have a date of notification nearby in the same colour ink.

Note not all name changes after marriage are recorded I have an aunt who married in 1963 (many years before 1991 when the NHS finished updating the 1939) but her change of name was never recorded

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Re: Amendments to 1939 register

Postby AdrianB38 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:58 pm

Guy wrote:... From the entries I have seen a name change on marriage is normally carried out in blue ink, a name change in the case of a minor when his/her mother re-marries is in green ink a correction of an error in red ink and some other changes made in black pencil but I don't know the implication of these. ...


I'd kept a note of this and duly had to consult it yesterday. However, I have to say that it looks like colour coding was not consistent! My revised name was green, which didn't match the (admittedly shaky) family story I'm getting when using Guy's interpretation. Having looked further at my entries - mostly from the North West - I appear to be getting way too many green entries (compared to the others) for it to be a name change of a minor on their mother's remarriage. And the major point is that if I get this for the supposed original family...
  • Arthur Smith;
  • Belinda Smith;
  • Charlotte Smith
If Charlotte Smith becomes Charlotte Jones in green, then her supposed mother doesn't change, i.e. she hasn't remarried, so the "mother's remarriage" idea doesn't appear to be true.

Guy is no doubt right for the area and era that he was looking at, but it doesn't seem to apply to my lot.
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Re: Amendments to 1939 register

Postby MayHam » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:16 am

Just an aside, https://www.freebmd.org.uk/ lists a 1952 marriage in Ealing between Beryl J Smith & John A Andrews.
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Re: Amendments to 1939 register

Postby Guy » Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:36 am

AdrianB38 wrote:
Guy wrote:... From the entries I have seen a name change on marriage is normally carried out in blue ink, a name change in the case of a minor when his/her mother re-marries is in green ink a correction of an error in red ink and some other changes made in black pencil but I don't know the implication of these. ...


I'd kept a note of this and duly had to consult it yesterday. However, I have to say that it looks like colour coding was not consistent! My revised name was green, which didn't match the (admittedly shaky) family story I'm getting when using Guy's interpretation. Having looked further at my entries - mostly from the North West - I appear to be getting way too many green entries (compared to the others) for it to be a name change of a minor on their mother's remarriage. And the major point is that if I get this for the supposed original family...
  • Arthur Smith;
  • Belinda Smith;
  • Charlotte Smith
If Charlotte Smith becomes Charlotte Jones in green, then her supposed mother doesn't change, i.e. she hasn't remarried, so the "mother's remarriage" idea doesn't appear to be true.

Guy is no doubt right for the area and era that he was looking at, but it doesn't seem to apply to my lot.


No what I should have written is "... From the entries I have seen a name change on marriage is normally carried out in blue ink, other name changes such as a minor when his/her mother re-marries is in green ink a correction of an error in red ink and some other changes made in black pencil but I don't know the implication of these. ...

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Re: Amendments to 1939 register

Postby AdrianB38 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:28 am

Guy wrote:... "other name changes such as a minor when his/her mother re-marries is in green" ...

So it might be an "other" name change. OK - we'll see if that helps. It's tricky this one - as I said the family stories are flakey - my informant couldn't get much beyond "We don't talk about that". I've got the surname I want (in green) but the 1939 isn't too clear because most of lines are redacted still, and I'm not even convinced the green surname belongs to that line rather than being an overflow from the redacted line above. (Yes, affected people are still living).
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