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Mary CHALK

Postby SDV » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:19 am

Mary was the first child of William CHALK and his wife Sarah COLE. She was born in Stow Maries in 1801, being baptised in the local church in June 1801. After her baptism, I'm afraid I can find no trace of her. I have looked in the burial records for Stow Maries on SEAX to no avail, but have not been able to find a suitable record.

I would be grateful for any evidence relating to Jane's life following her baptism.
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Re: Mary CHALK

Postby ianbee » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:42 am

Hi
Well, there's Mary Long in Stow Maries
With John Long in 1841 (Lorig on ancestry), age a rounded down 35.

1851, Stow Maries (piece 1778 folio 32 page 5)
John Long Head 60 Ag Lab Chelsea Pensioner
Mary Long Wife 49, born Cold Norton
George Long Lodger 52 Ag Lab Greenwich Pensioner
William Chalk Nephew 2, born Stow Maries
William Davis Lodger 32

Possibly the nephew William is the illegitimate William Rowe Chalk baptized at Stow Maries, 12 November 1848. Mother Ellen, a Servant.
Was Ellen Chalk a sibling of your Mary?
Ian

EDIT - George Long, not Jesse!
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Re: Mary CHALK

Postby ianbee » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:48 am

The marriage was at Hornchurch, 7 January 1839
And is transcribed on FreeReg
John Long + Mary Chalk
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Re: Mary CHALK

Postby ianbee » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:02 pm

Hornchurch sent a copy of the marriage to the diocese, but in the old format!
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=495537
(and again on the next image)

How disappointing.
John Long was of the parish of Stow Marys. So, no fathers are named.
It is the same info as on FreeReg. And they say they have transcribed from the parish register.
I know that after the new format marriage registers were introduced in 1837, some parishes did, for a while, continue recording the marriages in their old register as well. The bride and groom, witnesses, would have had to sign three registers in all!
You will have to look on SEAX and see if the new marriage register is there.
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Re: Mary CHALK

Postby ianbee » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:21 pm

Possibly
John Long
Born Woodham Ferris, Essex
Served in 85th Foot Regiment; 89th Foot Regiment
Discharged aged 41
Date: 1816-1834
Reference: WO 97/946/52
Held by: The National Archives, Kew

Should be on findmypast
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Re: Mary CHALK

Postby ianbee » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:59 pm

A happy ending!
Ellen married William Rowe, presumably the young lad's father.
4 August 1851, St Mary Whitechapel
William Rowe, of full age, Bachelor, Carpenter, father James Rowe, Gardener
+
Ellen Chalk, of full age, Spinster, father William Chalk, Groom
residence for both Great Alie Street

They are in New Brentford in 1861 (piece 777 folio 5 page 6)
Ellen Rowe, 34, son William Rowe, 12, both born Essex Stow Maries.
William and Ellen have a daughter as well.

Ellen was baptized in Stow, 30 April 1826. That's a long gap from Mary!
Image of BT is here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=518925

If anyone thinks that these Essex BT images are of poor quality, you should try looking at them on a LDS microfilm reader. It could be like attempting to make out something lying at the bottom of a murky pond!
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Re: Mary CHALK

Postby SDV » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:16 pm

Many thanks for all this.

Ellen CHALK was a sibling and born in 1826. She did indeed marry William ROWE.

I have now found Mary's marriage on SEAX - it's easy when you know where to look! This is definitely the right one, as her father is named correctly as William CHALK and one of the witnesses is Charlotte BRIDGE (née CHALK) another sibling. By the way, the registers do overlap, luckily for me it is in the new register starting in 1837. Didn't bother to check the old one, which continues to 1846.

I am now really getting to grips with my 4xGGP with all this help. The really big outstanding problem is what happened to the mother Sarah CHALK (née COLE) after the death of her husband William in 1827. Did she re-marry? Less likely, did she move out of the area? When and where did she die?

Addition: I have now found Mary in 1871, still living in Stow Maries as a widow, with her younger brother James and his wife. But can't find her in 1861.

My continuing confusion lies in the fact that she repeatedly states her birthplace as Cold Norton. As far as I am aware she was born and baptised in Stow Maries.

She died in 1873 in Stow Maries, where she is buried.
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