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Re: Manchester to Massachusetts: Fletcher, Whittaker, Amos

Postby DianaCanada » Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:46 pm

I have found the birth registrations of some of George and Matilda's children, Luther's siblings, and her maiden name was indeed Dove.
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Re: Manchester to Massachusetts: Fletcher, Whittaker, Amos

Postby DianaCanada » Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:18 pm

Still haven't found John Whittaker but did track his sister and brother down in the 1871 census, just after he married Elizabeth Ann Fletcher. His sister Easter (sic, Esther in 1861) and James are living in Gorton she is 24, he 16, with three nieces (surname looks like Wilcock) and a lodger. Next door are Richard and Mary Gleave, the same names as the witnesses at John and Elizabeth's wedding earlier that year. So looks like the right John, wherever he is.
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Re: Manchester to Massachusetts: Fletcher, Whittaker, Amos

Postby StevePat » Sun May 27, 2018 4:56 pm

Hi. I write only in connection with the address 6 Watkins Street, Ardwick, which your ancestor Elizabeth Ann Fletcher seems to have been occupying at the time of her Feb 12, 1871 marriage. My 2 x great grandparents, John and Ann Ryder, were living at this address at the time of the 1871 census, some seven weeks after the marriage, on April 2, 1871. It was a pub known as the 'Royal Oak'. They had a 12-yr-old servant who had perhaps replaced your Elizabeth Ann following her marriage.
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Re: Manchester to Massachusetts: Fletcher, Whittaker, Amos

Postby elsabels » Sun May 27, 2018 9:58 pm

She married John Whittaker, son of Cornelius Whittaker, on 12 Feb 1871 at Manchester Cathedral. She was 18, John was 22 and he is listed as a grocer. Elizabeth address is given as 6 Watkins Street, Ardwick (Manchester). This is the only Elizabeth Ann Fletcher marriage to a John Whittaker (see second marriage below) I have found for the appropriate time period.

Elizabeth is with her mother (Harriet Hibbert Fletcher) in 1871, described as lodger’s daughter, married, in household of Joseph and Elizabeth Shenton in Hulme, but husband John Whittaker is not present. Her occupation is listed as winder.


On the marriage certificate John Whittaker's father is listed as Cornelius WHITTAKER station master

Name: John Whittaker
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 21 Nov 1848
Birth Place: Lowton, Lancashire, England
Baptism Date: 25 Dec 1848
Baptism Place: Lowton, Lancashire, England
Father: Cornelius Whittaker
Mother: Anne

There is a Cornelius Whittaker b 1821 Lowton Lancs with a 12 son b Lowton Lancs
1861 Turnpike Road Lowton Leigh
RG 9; Piece: 2799; Folio: 73; Page: 3

1871 Canterbury Barracks
RG10; Piece: 970; Folio: 56; Page: 7;
John b Whittaker 23 unm Trumpeter Lancs

1881 14 and 16 Springfield Liverpool
RG11; Piece: 3633; Folio: 45; Page: 22;
John Whittaker 32 unm Lodger B Lowton Lancs

66 Hyde Road is the Bird in Hand RG10 4078 32
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Re: Manchester to Massachusetts: Fletcher, Whittaker, Amos

Postby elsabels » Mon May 28, 2018 10:18 am

Name: Luther Amos desc as Draper of Oldham Street
Birth Year: abt 1836
Marriage Date: 17 Oct 1858
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's name: George Amos desc as Clergyman
Spouse's Name: Rebecca Huby
Spouse's Father's Name: Jesse James Huby

1861RG 9; Piece: 217; Folio: 73; Page: 19
3 Middle St St Bartholomew the Great Middlesex
Luther Ames 24
Rebecca Ames 26
George Ames 1
Frederick W Ames 7/12 he died Manchester 1861

Name: Frederick William Amos
Age: 10/12
Birth Date: abt 1860
Burial Date: 21 Jul 1861
Burial Place: Hulme, St George, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears: Hulme, St Gabriel
Father: Luther Amos
Mother: Rebecca Amos

1871 RG10; Piece: 3840; Folio: 6; Page: 10
21 Pythian St West Derby Liverpool
Francis Kerridge 58
Mary Kerridge 58
Luther Amos 32
George E Amos 12
Angelina Amos 9
Luther Amos 5

Edward Hughes 27
Henry Perkins 29

1871 RG10; Piece: 4049; Folio: 22; Page: 37
11 Junction Street St George Manchester
Catherine Heely 52 mother maiden name Greenwood
Rebecca Amos 31
Kate Amos 2

1881 RG11; Piece: 4064; Folio: 112; Page: 10
75 Eldon St
Rebecca Amos 44
Luther Amos 16
Edith Kate Amos 12
Arthur E. Amos 9
Bertha Amos 7
John Manney 28
Louisa Manney 23

Name: Rebecca Amos
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Registration Year: 1890
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 55
Registration district: Oldham Lancashire
Volume: 8d Page: 484

It looks as if the AMos & Whittaker family lived seperate lives for the purpose of the census returns. who knows?
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Re: Manchester to Massachusetts: Fletcher, Whittaker, Amos

Postby elsabels » Mon May 28, 2018 10:27 am

This ties in with census info:
Name: Luther Amos
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 19 Feb 1837
Birth Place: Lavenham, Suffolk, England
Father: George Amos
Mother: Matilda
FHL Film Number: 1657479

Rev's George AMOS Congregational Minister, Grant of Probate & Will
Name: George Amos
Death Date: 11 Jan 1885
Death Place: Hertford, Hertfordshire, England
Probate Date: 19 Feb 1885
Registry: Principal Registry

Mentions Maria Emily AMOS as relict as one Executor and Allen Ansconbe as the other

Copy obtainable from https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate
follow links.
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Re: Manchester to Massachusetts: Fletcher, Whittaker, Amos

Postby elsabels » Mon May 28, 2018 1:16 pm

Matilda DOVE b 1810
b 21 April 1810
bp
Great Meeting Friar Street and the Little or Lowersudburyg Independent, Sudbury, Suffolk
d/o William & Ann Dove
RG4 1861

Matilda AMOS died q1 1855 Oundle Northants

Check this out
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=gAZ ... er&f=false
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Re: Manchester to Massachusetts: Fletcher, Whittaker, Amos

Postby elsabels » Mon May 28, 2018 3:29 pm

Nottinghamshire Guardian - Thursday 24 January 1856
MARRIAGE 19 January 1856 Rev George AMOS of Cranbrook Kent to Emma eldest daughter of the late Thomas JELLEY of Kings Cliffe nr Stamford

Barnet Press - Saturday 03 February 1883
DEATHS. Amos. —January 27, at New Barnet, Emma Amos, wife the Rev. George Amos, in the 70th year of her age

Published: Friday 10 January 1851 Newspaper: Stamford Mercury
consumption, her 21st year, Sarah eldest daughter of the Rev. George Amos, Independent Minister, of King's Cliffe
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Re: Manchester to Massachusetts: Fletcher, Whittaker, Amos

Postby elsabels » Mon May 28, 2018 3:35 pm

Found baptisms of children of George & Matilda AMOS

Name: Louisa Amos
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 25 Mar 1829
Baptism Place: Braintree, Essex, England

Name: Sarah Amos
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 27 Dec 1830
Baptism Place: Suffolk County Bts, Suffolk, England

Name: George Amos
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 9 Jun 1833
Baptism Place: Lavenham, Suffolk, England

Name: Calvin Amos
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 27 Jun 1834
Birth Place: Lavenham, Suffolk,

Name: Luther Amos
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 19 Feb 1837
Birth Place: Lavenham, Suffolk, England
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Re: Manchester to Massachusetts: Fletcher, Whittaker, Amos

Postby DianaCanada » Mon May 28, 2018 3:47 pm

StevePat wrote:Hi. I write only in connection with the address 6 Watkins Street, Ardwick, which your ancestor Elizabeth Ann Fletcher seems to have been occupying at the time of her Feb 12, 1871 marriage. My 2 x great grandparents, John and Ann Ryder, were living at this address at the time of the 1871 census, some seven weeks after the marriage, on April 2, 1871. It was a pub known as the 'Royal Oak'. They had a 12-yr-old servant who had perhaps replaced your Elizabeth Ann following her marriage.


Thank you StevePat! This is interesting. I wonder if there was any family connection between Elizabeth Ann and the Ryders. Am I right that Ann was a Johnson? Neither of those names have turned up in my family (yet). On the 1871 Elizabeth Ann was a winder, but she might have been lodging with the Ryders and helping out with the beer selling and maybe young Arthur.
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