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Postby Suddes » Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:00 am

Is there anyway of identifying who the policeman is or any information about him from this photograph. The only thing known about him is that he was a relative of my grandfather, RFC Jones (born in London in 1897).

Any suggestions/ ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Policeman

Postby ksouthall » Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:38 pm

Would it be possible to make the photo smaller and also turn it up the right way please? It's not easy to view on a laptop otherwise.
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Re: Policeman

Postby brunes08 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:12 pm

The photo is fine on my i-Pad - no problem with viewing. As you mention London, the chances are he is either with the Metropolitan Police or the City of London Police. The records for these are with the National Archives. However, as you do not know his name that is not much help at this stage so you will have to look elsewhere. I just googled Metropolitan Police Museum. Lots of sites come up that may be of some help in finding out about your chap as he has a number on his collar.
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Re: Policeman

Postby AdrianB38 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:30 pm

Logically, the collar number plus the identity of the police force in question should give you the identity.

However, this depends on a number of things:
1. Which force?
2. Do the records survive of that force?
3. Did the force in question re-use the collar numbers?
4. If they did, can you work out a time frame?

And.....
5. Do those medals mean anything to anyone? My wild guess would be that they can't just be police medals but are probably (but not certainly) Army???

None of the above provides any answers but it might provide a methodology....


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Re: Policeman

Postby ksouthall » Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:58 pm

Thanks for editing the photo and turning it the right way up. It's now much easier to see it.
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Re: Policeman

Postby ksouthall » Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:59 pm

brunes08 wrote:The photo is fine on my i-Pad - no problem with viewing.


It is now. Luckily the original poster has cropped it and turned it round to make it easier to view.
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Re: Policeman

Postby Jethro Tull » Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:44 pm

I am trying to work out the medal ribbons but sadly the lack of colour makes it very difficult. They could be military or police coronation medals.
The uniform I think is post 1885 and the addition of the whistle chain could place this a couple of years later as it replaced the rattle.
The collar tabs are interesting though, the middle one looks like an anchor. River police perhaps? The crown style was in use I believe until 1952 so not much help there.
Not much use I know but it may help someone else.

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Re: Policeman

Postby Jethro Tull » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:29 pm

I've been reading through some of my books and using Google too with photo references and possibly, I must stress the possibly, think the medals could be, L-R, the Jubilee (Police) medal 1897, the Coronation (Police) Medal 1902 and the Coronation (Police) Medal 1911.
This is only guesswork to be fair as the colours are hard to work out but this is from using my own references and images found online. Would be interested to see others opinions on this.
If this is correct though it dates the picture to post 1911.
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Re: Policeman

Postby AdrianB38 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:44 pm

I'd buy the suggestion of an anchor, Dan. An "8" for his own number, a fouled anchor (i.e. anchor with some rope swirling round it) and a crown. Which suggests some sort of dockyard / port / river police.

Think you may need some specialist forum!
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Re: Policeman

Postby Jethro Tull » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:58 pm

I've just found this site

http://british-police-history.uk/show_n ... &nav=alpha

It's a possibility.

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