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James Wigley - birth details needed

Postby woodchal » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:54 pm

Wigley is an old family, which started off in Derbyshire. The posh lot went off to Scraptoft Hall in Leicester, but the poorer branch stayed behind in Derbyshire - the Wirksworth area.

My wife’s 3rd Great Grandfather, James Wigley (1791- 1867) turns up in Kirk Ireton in 1819 and marries Elizabeth Thorneley (near Wirksworth). However the 1841 census says he was born “out of county”. The 1851 census says he was born in Atherstone in Warickshire. The name of the town is not very clear, but this is our best guess. By 1861 he has forgotten where he comes from and says Kirk Ireton.

I have not be able to find any details about his birth in Warickshire (or Derbyshire), so this has remained a brick wall. Was he really part of the Wirksworth Wigley family and he just happened to be born in Warwickshire before the family moved back to Derbyshire?

Any ideas about how I might knock down this wall?
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Re: James Wigley - birth details needed

Postby sdup26 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:50 pm

James may have been a bit confused about his place of birth, but he wasn't much more helpful with his birth year! It's 1786 in 1841, 1791 in 1851, 1785 in 1861, and his age at death in 1867 gives a birth year of 1781. So he may have been born earlier than the 1791 suggested in your post. But where? I can't find anything in Atherstone, but there's a baptism for a James Wigley in Wirksworth, March 12th 1784, parents John and Millicent. Or have you already ruled this one out?
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Re: James Wigley - birth details needed

Postby woodchal » Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:21 pm

Yes, as you say, birth dates are also a bit random.

1841 - says he is 55, rounded up so 51-55 (birth 1786-1791)
1851 - says he is 60 (1791)
1861 - says he is 76 (1785)
Burial record (transcript only) says he was 86 in 1867 (birth 1781)

I went for 1791 for several reasons, not least the age of the children, but maybe I need to look at this again.
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Re: James Wigley - birth details needed

Postby mouthfulofbees » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:38 pm

Could this be him?

James Wigley
Christened 15 Sept 1784 Wirksworth, Wirksworth, Derbyshire, England
Father: John
Mother: Milicent
England, Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers, 1537-1918
On familysearch.org
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Re: James Wigley - birth details needed

Postby woodchal » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:29 pm

Yes, this James called be ruled out - he married someone else. There are a few James Wigley in the area, but only our James seems to have been born out of county
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