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Gelshan family

Postby janmlawson » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:45 pm

Please could anyone help me track John Gelshan after the 1871 census. His name is variously spelled Galshan, Gelshan, Galshaw - he married Jane Doyle and they have Ann, Mary, Frances, Agnes, Angela, John, Richard and Teresa. In 1871 they were at Newton in Manchester. I would be happy to find any of them. Thanks
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Re: Gelshan family

Postby coopernicola » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:49 pm

Do you have DoB or PoB for any of the family?
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Re: Gelshan family

Postby janmlawson » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:34 pm

Sorry. John was born in 1833 and the children around the 1860s. If that doesn't help I will give more information when I look at it again tomorrow on my laptop.
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Re: Gelshan family

Postby trace » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:37 pm

All births registered in Manchester
Ann 1852
Mary 1854
Frances 1856
Agnes 1858
Angela 1860
John Alphonsa 1863
Richard 1864 : died 1865
Martha Ann 1866 : died 1867
Teresa 1867 : died 1868

1871 Census Oldham Rd, Newton, Manchester

Marriage 1851 Manchester R D

Wife Jane said to be born in Ireland..... did they go there after 1873 (Last entry in Manchester Rate Book 1873) OR emigrate?
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Re: Gelshan family

Postby janmlawson » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:40 am

The Gelshan family were probably Irish, too, the mum definitely was. Maybe they went to America - Ireland wouldn't seem to be a place to return to in the 19th century. They certainly seem to be struggling financially and they lost the last 3 children as infants. Thanks for trying.
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Re: Gelshan family

Postby MoVidger » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:11 pm

There is this family living in Lawrence, Massachusetts in the 1880 census:

John Gilson, age 47, birthplace England, works in dye house
Jane Gilson, age 45, birthplace Ireland
John A Gilson, age 17, birthplace England

Looks like John A Gilson died from pneumonia on 8 January 1890 in Lawrence. His occupation is listed as "operative". Residence: 142 Myrtle, Lawrence.

Also, did John Gelshan join the military in the UK? There is a United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records 1845-1854 record which lists a John Gelshan born in Lancashire in 1832.
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Re: Gelshan family

Postby ianbee » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:52 pm

Brilliant stuff, Mo.
Could they have been Gelson for a spell? A John Gelson is in the rate books at Thorp Street, Newton, 1875-8
Newton became part of Prestwich RD in 1874
Two interesting marriages there
Mary Gelson + Abraham Etchels in 1874
Are they the couple in Ashley Lane, Moston, Prestwich, in 1881? Mary Etchels, 26, born Failsworth

and
Agnes Gelson + Dominic Gilmartin in 1878
Seem to have had a son Richard, born in 1879 (mmn Gelson), and died same year.
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Re: Gelshan family

Postby ianbee » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:06 pm

In case it turns out to be relevant, an Agness Gilmartin, born circa 1858, England, arriving in Massachusetts in 1880
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2304666

Says, occupation Spinster! Not sure who else it could be.
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Re: Gelshan family

Postby ianbee » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:35 pm

From FamilySearch, Rhode Island Deaths and Burials, 1802-1950
Name: Agnes Teresa Gilmartin
Gender: Female
Death Date: 5 Jul 1932
Death Place: Providence, Rhode Island
Age: 74
Birth Date: 1858
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Dominick
Father's Name: John Gelson
Mother's Name: Jane Doyle
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Re: Gelshan family

Postby ianbee » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:52 pm

It says "No image available" for the death cert of Agnes.
But! LDS microfilm 1941474 can indeed be viewed on FamilySearch, via their catalogue, if you are registered and logged in
https://familysearch.org/register/1

Well worth seeing it, as it has much more info, date of birth, cause of death, etc.
The informant was her sister, Frances Hopkins
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cat=698695

Actually, not surprisingly, it says Agnes was a widow.
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