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South African Ancestors

Postby DocRock » Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:47 pm

Hi

I don't know if anybody can recommend websites for finding information on South African ancestors, I know my Great Great Grandmother was born in Touws River, South Africa, and I know her father was a John Alfred Taylor, a railway engineer, but that is all I know, I would love to be able to trace this line further back but don't know where to start

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Re: South African Ancestors

Postby Sylcec » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:09 am

Family search have indexed (and are indexing) a lot of info on South African ancestors, including a large number of death notices. Death notices are invaluable for research in South Africa as they contains details of the deceased's parents and children, even grandchildren etc where known.
http://www.familysearch.org Also use the Familysearch wiki for advice and links: https://familysearch.org/wiki/en/South_Africa_Genealogy

The South African Archives have a search function abbreviated to NAAIRS, where you may find some clues - though not the actual records. http://www.national.archives.gov.za/naairs.htm
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Re: South African Ancestors

Postby MaureenE » Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:24 am

There is a FIBIS Fibiwiki page South Africa which provides some sources.
https://wiki.fibis.org/w/South_Africa

There is also a FIBIS Fibiwiki page Public Works Department which provides information about engineers, mainly engineers in India, however, some of the information would also apply to engineers generally. See particularly section Records, but some of the other sections may give an indication of what could be available in respect of Africa.
https://wiki.fibis.org/w/Public_Works_D ... nt#Records

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Re: South African Ancestors

Postby MayHam » Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:03 am

The National Archives of South Africa has some information about a John Alfred & Maria (Pye) Taylor.
http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm3 ... 1517340A69

They may be the same John Taylor & Mary Ann(e) Pye who married in Halstead, Essex in 1857.
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Do you know the name of your Great-Great Grandmother?
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Re: South African Ancestors

Postby DocRock » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:05 am

Thanks everybody, some things to look at there, the name of my Great Great Grandmother was Lucy Ellen Taylor, on the 1911 census it says she was born in "Touws River" and that she is a "British Subject by Parentage"
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Re: South African Ancestors

Postby ianbee » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:32 am

She married William Martin at Exminster St Martin, Devon, in 1904.
In 1911 the Martins are in Ottery St Mary, Lucy Ellen is 29

From Family Search, 1901 census
Lucy Taylor
Gender: Female
Age: 20
Relationship to Head of Household: Grand Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated): 1881
Birthplace: S Africa Cape Town C Col
Civil Parish: Stoke Canon
Ecclesiastical Parish: Stoke Canon St Mary
County: Devonshire
Sub-District: Heavitree
Registration District: St Thomas
Household:
Hermina Dymond Head F 66 Colaton Raleigh, Devonshire
Robert Jno Dymond Son M 21 Stoke Canon, Devonshire
Eva Taylor Daughter F 28 Awliscombe, Devonshire
Lucy Taylor Grand Daughter F 20 S Africa Cape Town C Col Etc
Daisy Taylor Grand Daughter F 11 S Africa Johannesburg Transvaal & O R C
Eva Taylor Grand Daughter F 6 S Africa Johannesburg Transvaal & O R C
Percy Taylor Grand Son M 5 S Africa Johannesburg Transvaal & O R C
D'Arcy Taylor Grand Son M 2 S Africa Johannesburg Transvaal & O R C

Pecy's baptism:
South Africa, Church of the Province of South Africa, Parish Registers
Name: Percy Taylor
Event Type: Baptism
Event Date: 02 Feb 1896
Event Place: Transvaal, South Africa
Parent Name: John Alfred Taylor
Parent 2 Name: Eva Taylor
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1468076

Eva would be too young to be Lucy's mother. She was 9 in 1881 (Eva Dymond)
Eva Dymond married John Alfred Taylor at Stoke Canon in 1893.
Try looking incoming passenger lists?
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Re: South African Ancestors

Postby DocRock » Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:39 am

Thanks Ianbee, some leads there, just have to try and work out where they all fit in now!
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Re: South African Ancestors

Postby MayHam » Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:43 pm

John Alfred Taylor's 1893 marriage to Eva Dymond lists his father as "John Taylor."
http://search.findmypast.com/record?id= ... 171807%2f2

In 1885, there was a mortgage bond in South Africa between John Taylor and John Alfred Taylor.
http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm3 ... N=00000008

There were two other mortgage bonds for John Alfred Taylor in 1882.
http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm3 ... N=00000004
and
http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm3 ... N=00000005

As IanBee pointed out, John Alfred Taylor married twice.

I'm guessing his first wife could have been Maria Pye who died in 1892 because Lucy Ellen apparently was the full sister of Daisy, baptised in 1894 but born 6 Jul 1891.
http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm3 ... N=00000016
and
http://search.findmypast.com/bna/viewar ... 0923%2f106
and
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVSH-3SH7

They returned to England in 1896.
http://search.findmypast.com/bna/viewar ... 0318%2f002

Her step-mother ran into trouble in 1907 when her husband was in San Francisco according to the Devon newspapers on FindMyPast.

D'arcy Taylor appears to be living in California in 1930 and 1940 stating he immigrated in 1911.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XCJW-DNB
and
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XCJW-DNB
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