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1921 - 1931 - 1941 Censuses

Postby Simon45 » Wed May 31, 2017 2:54 pm

I believe it is possible to view these censuses if you show proof that you are a relative ( birth , marriage record etc )
Has anyone done this please ?
Who should i contact ?

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Re: 1921 - 1931 - 1941 Censuses

Postby ianbee » Wed May 31, 2017 3:05 pm

Simon45 wrote:Who should i contact ?

No one.
You cannot view the 1921 census, or request information from it.
The 1931 census was destroyed in a fire during WW2.
1941 census was not taken. Use the 1939 Register.
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Re: 1921 - 1931 - 1941 Censuses

Postby AntonyM » Wed May 31, 2017 3:09 pm

The 1931 census was destroyed by fire in 1942, and there was no 1941 census ( but the 1939 Register is a decent substitute).

Information on the 1921 census can be found here...

http://www.1921census.org.uk/
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Re: 1921 - 1931 - 1941 Censuses

Postby Simon45 » Wed May 31, 2017 3:49 pm

Thanks for the replies


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Re: 1921 - 1931 - 1941 Censuses

Postby Guy » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:03 pm

According to the law (Census Act 1920 as amended by the Census (Confidentiality) Act 1991) as it stands today no personal census information can or ever will be disclosed.
There is no legal way any census taken under the 1920 Census Act can ever be released unless or until there is a change in the law.

Census (Confidentiality) Act 1991)

“1 Unlawful disclosure of information

In section 8 of the [1920 c. 41.] Census Act 1920 (penalties), the following subsections shall be substituted for subsection (2)—

“(2)If the Registrar-General for England and Wales or the Registrar-General for Scotland (“the Registrars”) or any person who is—

(a)under the control of either of the Registrars; or

(b)a supplier of any services to either of them,

discloses any personal census information to another person, without lawful authority, he shall be guilty of an offence.

(3)If any person discloses to another person any personal census information which he knows has been disclosed in contravention of this Act, he shall be guilty of an offence.”

Just to correct a common error, only the 1931 Census for England and Wales was destroyed by fire Scotland was a little more careful with their archived documents and the 1931 census of Scotland still survives

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Re: 1921 - 1931 - 1941 Censuses

Postby junkers » Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:24 pm

Without wishing to go over Census confidentiality (again) the key word is "unlawful" and the Lord Chancellor (as was) ordered that all Census records should be closed for 100 years (see https://www.ons.gov.uk/census/2001censu ... dentiality). So it is not true that they will never be released as this decision constitutes 'legal authority' as I see it.
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Re: 1921 - 1931 - 1941 Censuses

Postby Guy » Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:00 am

junkers wrote:Without wishing to go over Census confidentiality (again) the key word is "unlawful" and the Lord Chancellor (as was) ordered that all Census records should be closed for 100 years (see https://www.ons.gov.uk/census/2001censu ... dentiality). So it is not true that they will never be released as this decision constitutes 'legal authority' as I see it.


Sorry but you are mistaken.

The Lord Chancellor's Instrument No. 12 of 1966 which established the 100-year embargo rule was repealed by the Freedom of Information Act 2000, as I proved when I managed to get the 1911 census opened.

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Re: 1921 - 1931 - 1941 Censuses

Postby AdrianB38 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:25 am

So I guess that there are 3 basic possibilities:

1. The 1921 onwards are never ever released.
2. The bit in the 1991 Act that Guy cites, is altered, eg to (re)instate a 100y closure.
3. As each census comes up for 100y, a specific order of some sort is made to release that census (only). Quite what sort of order that would need to be to constitute "lawful authority" under 1(2) of the quoted 1991 Act, I dunno.

No doubt variations are possible - including the possibility of using a closure period longer than 100y - while I personally don't want to wait longer, from a professional viewpoint, 100y is increasingly unsustainable. Though that should also depend on what the data in the specific census actually is.


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