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Re: Belgium archives

Postby Sylcec » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:55 am

Thanks. I sent you a PM. I need to do some more work on this line....
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Re: Belgium archives

Postby Namkrik » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:30 am

Just for interest, and thanks to this Forum,I have looked at what was happening with the Kirkman family around the time when they were in Belgium and France.

1848 Martha Kirkman married John Agnew 17 August 1848 in Boulogne Sur Mer. John was a lawyer at Vorden, Netherlands. Up to about 1830 Belgium was part of a United Netherlands.

1849 According to this forum the family, or most of them, immigrated at Antwerp then moved on to Boechout and then to Boulogne Sur Mer, France.

1850 Martha Agnew (nee Kirkman) died in Ghent on 6 August 1850 a few months after the birth of her son, John Kirkman Agnew, on 16 May 1850.

1852 Maria Sarah Kirkman married Robert William Taylor, of Boechout, on 12 April 1852 at Mortsel. Both Mortsel and Boechout lie just a little south east of Antwerp with Boechout being just a little further out. Both are considered as within the Province of Antwerp.

So from this small examination we see the same locations occurring in the various events and those where the family travelled, albeit not necessarily at coincidental times.
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Re: Belgium archives

Postby BelgianAncestryHelp » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:34 pm

See my previous post; I meant their previous residence was Boulogne sur Mer, meaning they lived there before they moved to Belgium. Check the Antwerp immigration records online, look for files nos. 6778 and 26948.
Meanwhile I can't find the marriage records in the towns and the dates you mentioned, for instance the 1852 wedding in Mortsel. You can check the online files. Where did you get the dates from?
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Re: Belgium archives

Postby Namkrik » Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:29 am

Apologies for my misunderstanding of your post regarding the residence.

The only online records I have managed to find have been copied into my posts.

In particular my post of Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:33 pm gives details I found in the online record of the marriage at Mortsel.
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Re: Belgium archives

Postby Namkrik » Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:30 am

For the marriage at Boulogne Sur Mer I will need to check my records to find where that information originated.
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Re: Belgium archives

Postby Namkrik » Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:50 am

I have rechecked the marriage for Martha Kirkman to John Agnew and from family papers they were actually married in Ghent - not Boulogne Sur Mer.

Apologies.
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Re: Belgium archives

Postby BelgianAncestryHelp » Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:56 pm

Even in Ghent, marriage not found. Have you checked the marriage record itself?
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Re: Belgium archives

Postby Namkrik » Mon May 01, 2017 6:36 am

The information for the Ghent marriage comes only from a family diary. I have not seen any marriage record.

The diary also records that Martha Kirkman and John Agnew had a son named John Kirkman Agnew born on 16 May 1850 - I would have assumed he was born in Ghent as the diary also states that Martha Agnew (nee Kirkman) died there on 6 August 1850.

Are there any records that would confirm those events?
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Re: Belgium archives

Postby Namkrik » Mon May 01, 2017 6:45 am

Interestingly I have just found online a copy of a death certificate for a John K V Agnew who died 17 December 1919 at Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA. The record also shows his date of birth as 16 May 1851 (so one year out) in Belgium. Also that his father's name was John Agnew also born Belgium. He left a widow named Lilian.
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Re: Belgium archives

Postby BelgianAncestryHelp » Mon May 01, 2017 11:35 am

16 May 1850 in Gent is correct: see the birth record here:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9PZQ-9V4X?mode=g&i=407&wc=Q82R-8D1%3A1009330801%2C1009357201&cc=2138513 (the top left record no 1498).
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