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Looking for Elizabeth Tanner born 1845 mother

Postby stefano » Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:55 pm

I am looking for Elizabeth Tanner born somewhere around Wokingham in 1845. Elizabeth married Charles Ballard in 1864. On the marriage information it has Robert Tanner as her dad. The only census I can find both a Robert and Elizabeth is 1851 and Robert is widowed.

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Re: Looking for Elizabeth Tanner born 1845 mother

Postby ianbee » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:43 pm

Family are in Part Lane, Swallowfield, in 1841. Transcribed as Janner on ancestry (someone has submitted a correction)
Robert Tanner 40 Ag L
Mary Tanner 40
Lucy Tanner 15
Susan Tanner 8
Amelia Tanner 5
Ester Tanner 2
same address
Edward Tanner 35
Ann Appleton 20

The thing is, there is a burial at Swallowfield, 20 Feb 1842, of Mary Tanner, age 42
Did Robert remarry and was then widowed again before 1851? No sign of that in Berkshire.
There's also this birth reg possibility
June 1845 Wokingham vol 6 page 277
Tanner, Female
mother -
(Likely illegitimate)

Lucy Tanner, one of Robert's daughters, married Thomas Edgerton, 16 Oct 1854, Swallowfield
1861 census, piece 751 folio 85 page 12, continues next page
Shinfield, Berkshire
Thomas Edgington Head 37 Agricultural Labourer
Lucy Edgington Wife 36
Elizabeth Tanner Daur 16, born Berkshire Wargrave
Mary Tanner Daur 14
Thomas Tanner Son 10
George Edgington Son 5
Rachel Edgington Son 2

Those three Tanner children match the three youngest ones in 1851 with the widowed Robert.
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Re: Looking for Elizabeth Tanner born 1845 mother

Postby brunes08 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:06 pm

I looked at the 1851 and 1841 census returns to find more or less what ianbee has found. Thomas' children seem to range from age 1yr to 30 yrs. It is not impossible for one wife to bear children over that length of time. However, all the records seem to be in Swallowfield, Wiltshire and then the sudden change to Wokingham, Berkshire for the birth of Elizabeth. Throws up a few queries though. Is it possible that the youngest children are the illegitimate offspring of one of the daughters rather than a second wife for Robert. Misleading information is often found on census returns. A look at the birth certificates may sort that out. I haven't found an appropriate death for Mary yet.
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Re: Looking for Elizabeth Tanner born 1845 mother

Postby brunes08 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:22 pm

I've looked again at the 1851 census. Mary Ann Appleton age 30 (just Ann Appleton on the 1841) may actually be the daughter of Robert's brother Edward as her name is listed under his. Missed that on first reading. May be, may not be. Doesn't alter the query of Mary's death and a 'second' wife though.
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Looking for Elizabeth Tanner born 1845 mother

Postby brunes08 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:05 pm

I have been puzzled by Swallowfield in Wiltshire and the Berkshire records. I couldn't find a Swallowfield, Wiltshire on any maps. I've had a rummage around and found that Swallowfield was a Wiltshire 'island' within Berkshire. There is an interesting history of the area on line if you just google the name. This island was changed by Act of Parliament in 1894. Having sorted this out in my head, Swallowfield is only a few miles south west of Wokingham and a few miles south of Reading. Wargrave where Elizabeth was born is just north east of Reading. This means that my wondering why there seemed to be a move from Wiltshire to Berkshire and back didn't actually happen. Just a confusion with old bounderies.
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