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Re: Miriam Morse

Postby KayFarndon » Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:39 pm

I suspect that the only way to know for certain is to send for her birth certificate.
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Re: Miriam Morse

Postby MayHam » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:54 pm

It appears Miriam was missed because Minnie Ellen Morse on page 3 is indexed in the same town. I've contacted GRO who say updates are made on a weekly basis.
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Re: Miriam Morse

Postby Mick Loney » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:48 am

If you know the name of siblings, search for them and get an idea of what mothers maiden name should be, then try searching for a female morse (no forename), phonetic match (and/or 'similar' match) on her surname and mothers surname. Enter exact year, registration district, quarter, volume and page. See if that pops it out. Transcription errors in either surname will prevent it being returned.

GRO gov website is quite picky, so if they think entry said Miria'n' rather than Miria'm', it won't find it. Leaving forename off the search, gives the site one less reason for rejecting it. On this site, less is often better than more!


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Re: Miriam Morse

Postby ianbee » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:05 am

You may have a big problem here.
I cannot see any of the other names with the same reference, Sep 1862, vol 6a page 4
A whole page may have been missed in the indexing project, or the names just not uploaded by the GRO?
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Re: Miriam Morse

Postby ksouthall » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:51 pm

Or it could have been indexed with an incorrect spelling. I tried Morse and Mouse. There may be other variants.

There may have been siblings who died in infancy so it could be worth checking for siblings by looking at possible parents and marriages.
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Re: Miriam Morse

Postby ksouthall » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:02 pm

Assuming Miriam was the daughter of David and Leah Morse, I couldn't find a likely marriage for them.

I'd guess the best way to find out for sure would be to obtain a copy of the birth certificate as there don't appear to have been any siblings.
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Miriam Morse

Postby Mick Loney » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:45 am

Whoops, didn't read original post properly, so have deleted what I was going to say!
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Re: Miriam Morse

Postby Cachalot6972 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:35 am

Apologies if you already know all the following, but yesterday was a slow day here in sunny Brittany...!

The Leah who appears to be married to David Morse gives her place of birth as Marlborough, Wiltshire.
There are only two Leah births in Fmp & FreeBMD between 1837 Q3 & 1845 Q4 in Marlborough district:
Leah Middleton 1841 Q4 Marlbro 8 335 (no mms), baptized 02 Jan 1842 Ogbourne St George. Mother - Elizabeth Middleton - no father's name. (Familysearch)
&
Leah Rushen 1842 Q3 Marlborough 8 335 (mms Boucher), baptized 17 Jul 1842 Ogbourne St George. Parents Edmund & Jane. (Familysearch)

Leah Middleton seems to have married John Perry - although a brief look at the census hasn't found them in 1871: Marriage: 1863 Q4 Wantage 2C 720, (in a straight line, Wantage is about 20 miles from Marlborough).
The other person on the page, Moses Alder, is with 'Maria' in 1871.

Leah Rushen married Richard Allnutt in 1864 (found in 1871).

If David Morse and Leah did marry, it must have been between 1861, when he is shown as single, and 1871, when he is shown as married, and as ksouthall says, there's no obvious marriage for them, which begs the question, did they really marry?
One scenario could be that Leah left John Perry and she and David lived as man & wife - it's not unknown...

1871, Miriam's place of birth is given as London, but from 1881 on, it's Bristol.
The last time David & Leah appear in censuses is 1891, when they are in Ramsgate, Kent (RG12-730-110-7).

The closest matches for their deaths are:
MORSE, LEAH 51 GRO Reference: 1892 J Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 472, although Fmp has her age as 61 (correction sent).
MORSE, DAVID 60 GRO Reference: 1892 D Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE Volume 01A Page 272.

Marriage: Miriam Morse = John Thomas Watson 1884 Q1 Camberwell 1D 945.

1891 25 Fitzroy Street, Brading, Isle of Wight. RG12-894-28-3.
1901 (as J T Watson & Marion), 18 Harvard Rd, Chiswick. RG13-1200-62-17.
1911 Elgin Mansions, Elgin Avenue, Paddington.
In all three with their son, Thomas 1885-1957.

Deaths:
WATSON, MIRIAM 50 GRO Reference: 1913 J Quarter in ROCHFORD Volume 04A Page 587.
Plausible: WATSON, JOHN THOMAS 80 GRO Reference: 1938 M Quarter in BILLERICAY Volume 04A Page 762.

Perhaps getting Miriam's marriage cert might throw some light on her mother...
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