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POLAND Bobko Ancestry

Postby Macca12 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:59 am

Has anyone done any research, looking for family in Eastern Europe around WW2 era?

I live in Australia and am currently working on trying to piece together my family tree and research my BOBKO ancestry.

My Grandfather was Eustachy BOBKO. He was born on 17 March 1922 in Kosienice, a small town north-west of Przemysl POLAND.
We believe his father's name was Szymon or Semen and mother Euzina or Eufrozine (maiden name Danczuk) and that he had two brothers, Michal and Stefan, as well as two sisters Hannah and Anna although we are not sure nor do we know what happened to his family.
We were told that his father was Polish and mother possibly Russian but we have more recently been told that both parents were possibly Ukraine. Perhaps this confusion stems from the fact there was so much conflict over the years in the Przemysl area?

We have been told that Szymon/Semen was a prisoner of war in WW1, held captive by the French but we are unaware of where, when or what circumstances.

Eustachy came to Australia as part of the Displaced Person Scheme, departing Bremerhaven Germany in May 1948 aboard the "Svalbard". He arrived at Port Melbourne, Victoria in June 1948, aged 26.
From Port Melbourne he travelled to the Refugee Camp "Bonegilla" in Albury, New South Wales just like many other eastern europeans did when they first arrived in Australia.
After a couple of months he was sent to Marouchedoor New South Wales for two years, cutting sugar cane.
From there he joined work on the railways and ended up at Stanwell Park New South Wales.
His last job was at Port Kembla, New South Wales working as a crane chaser, where he worked until he died.

He married my Australian born Grandmother Betty Joyce (maiden name Foristal) on 14 April 1951 in Auburn, New South Wales, aged 29 and on the 5th June 1953 my mother, Michelle Stefanie (named after my Grandfather's brothers Michal and Stefan) was born.

Sadly my Grandfather got very ill and on the 19 June 1955, aged just 33 he died in Bulli Hospital, New South Wales, from stomach cancer. My mother was only 2 years of age.
My Grandmother never remarried nor did she have any more children. My Grandmother has since passed away herself on 18 August 2010.

We are trying to find out more about my Grandfather's life in Poland and possibly find family since my mother has never known that whole half of who she is. Our online research unfortunately has only come up with NIL results. All the information we do have has come from the Australian Government.
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Re: POLAND Bobko Ancestry

Postby Sylcec » Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:35 am

I think you need to contact or join societies which specialise in Eastern Europe Family History. There are these, based in north America: http://feefhs.org/resource/poland and http://www.eegsociety.org/ . Cyndi's list has a page for Poland: http://www.cyndislist.com/poland/ If your ancestors were Jewish, then there will be specific research sources also available.

You said:
We were told that his father was Polish and mother possibly Russian but we have more recently been told that both parents were possibly Ukraine. Perhaps this confusion stems from the fact there was so much conflict over the years in the Przemysl area?


The history certainly seems confusing, but the link to Western Ukraine, seems to have been after the end of WWI. As far as I can tell Przemsyl appears to have been part of the Austro-Hungarian empire, but was invaded by Russian forces at the start of WWI, and by 1915 had captured over 125,000 prisoners. (This a very brief summary of some info on Wikipedia).

There is a history of Kosienice on a ? Polish site, but using Google translate, you can get an English version which begins:
Kosienice village is located in Podkarpacie, in the western part of Eastern Malopolska. It is located about 15 km north-west of Przemysl, with which it has been associated for both administrative and economic reasons.

http://parafiakosienice.pl/historia
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Re: POLAND Bobko Ancestry

Postby Macca12 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:04 am

Thanks Sylcec. It was interesting to read about the very early history of Kosienice.

From what I've read, Przemysl went through just as much during WW2 as what they did during WW1. Invaded by both Germany and the Soviet Union (unification of the Russian, Transcaucasian, Ukrainian, and Byelorussian republics). The border of the two invaders ran right through the area.

According to Wikipedia toward the end of WW2
The Red Army retook the town from German forces on July 27, 1944. On 16 August 1945, a border agreement between the government of the Soviet Union and the Polish Provisional Government of National Unity, installed by the Soviets, was signed in Moscow. According to the so-called Curzon Line, the postwar eastern border of Poland has been established several kilometres to the east of Przemyśl.


So Poland didn't become what we know it as today until after WW2.

I will look into the sites you have suggested re: Eastern Europe Family History.
Although my Grandfather was not Jewish, he was of Greek Catholic religion, but I will still look into them.

Thanks again
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Re: POLAND Bobko Ancestry

Postby Macca12 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:21 am

We have since learnt through my Grandfather's "Displaced Person's" papers that he also went to school in Kosienice from 1929-1936.
and then he worked as a shoemaker in the same town (1937-1939) working for a M.Bobko, perhaps this is his brother Michal?
From 1939 - 1941 he still worked as a shoe marker but he also was a farm worker at home. 

From here his "Displaced Persons" papers says that in 1941 (aged 19) he was then sent to Unterturkheim in the outer district of Stuttgart Germany and remained there until he came to Australia.

Perhaps his birth certificate might be a good place to start so we can learn the actual name of his parents and possibly his siblings information could be there as well, we believe Eustachy could have been the youngest???

From what I've read Poland seems really reluctant to give information away unless you are actually in the country. While this is not a no go zone, a trip to Poland is not on the cards in the foreseeable future.
Does anyone have any experience/tips on researching documents like this from outside Poland?

It also says in his Australian Immigration papers that the status of his parents, two brothers and two sisters was "unknown". So it appears he came to Australia not knowing if the rest of his family had survived the war.
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