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Massey Family

Postby ClareBear » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:37 pm

Hello
I am hoping that someone will be able to help with finding my disappearing ancestors, and solve a puzzle that is proving to be quite a challenge.

Thomas Massey was born on 11th March 1811 in or around Wolstanton, Staffordshire, baptized on the 17th March in the same area (his parents were William and Martha Massey)
He married Ann Emery on 13th Dec 1829 in St Mary Parish, Hansworth.
They had the following children:
Harriet in 1830, Mary in 1832, Lucy in 1834, Charlotte in 1836, William in 1838, Frances in 1840 and Thomas Richard in 1842.
In 1841 Thomas, Ann and his family are living in Shenstone in the parish of Ogley Hay, and his occupation is recorded as Engineer. According to their marriage entry, Thomas signed this with a X suggesting he could not read or write - so we are not sure if he was an engineer or what is meant by the term engineer.

After 1841, we have no trace or record of Thomas. He is not on the 1851 or 1861 census, he has not been found living with any of his children as they grew up and had families of their own. On his youngest son's marriage certificate and one of the last to get married, Thomas is not shown to be deceased
We can't find a death, though we have found a few that could be Thomas, but too many to know which to order from GRO. We have tried different spellings of names and so on, but nothing.

We would so love to find out what happened to Thomas and Ann, but they are proving hard to trace.
Any help, however small will be much appreciated.
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Re: Massey Family

Postby sdup26 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:50 am

I can't find them in 1851, but is there any chance this is your family in 1861?
Mount Pleasant, Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffs:
Thomas Massey, 53 (1808), ironmonger employing 2 men and 2 boys, b N-u-L
Ann Massey, 57 (1804), wife, b Checkley, Staffs
William Massey, 25 (1836), son, ironmonger, b N-u-L
Elizabeth Massey, 12 (1849), scholar, b N-u-L
Elizabeth Chell, 14 (1847), domestic servant, b Stone, Staffs

Trouble is, I can't find Elizabeth's birth registration with mother's maiden name Emery, but her baptism was August 1848, parents Ann and Thomas Massey, his occupation brazier (worker in brass).
The only other snippet on offer is that an ancestry family tree says Thomas died in 1881, N-u-L, with his Will describing him as an ironmonger and mentioning his son William. IF this is correct, possible death reg: Thomas Massey aged 74 (b1807) MQ 1881, Newcastle L. 6b 41 but maybe this is one of those you've already ruled out.
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Re: Massey Family

Postby ciderdrinker » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:33 pm

Hello
I don't know if this helps but the children are baptised at Bloxwich All Saints
Harriet 16.8.1830 Bloxwich fitting up engineer
Mary 11 .3.1832 born 11.12.1831 Bloxwich
Lucy 25.12.1833 Bloxwich
Charlotte 18.12.1836 Bloxwich
William 5.11.1837 Goscote
Frances 3.9.1839 Goscote all Thomas Massey engineer

Grandson
Thomas bapt 19 May 1850 d of Harriet Bloxwich

So they must have stayed in the area.
Charlotte is married at Bloxwich 1853


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Re: Massey Family

Postby sdup26 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:58 pm

Following on from ciderdrinker's brilliant spot, Charlotte Massey (father Thomas, engineer), married William Amos in Bloxwich Sept 1853. Thomas Massey (father Thomas) married Susannah Owen by banns in Bloxwich July 1865.
But it's possible their parents were elsewhere, and unfortunately, just because a father isn't 'deceased' on a marriage certificate, it doesn't mean he was alive.
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Re: Massey Family

Postby ianbee » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:48 pm

sdup26 wrote:ciderdrinker

Hasn't replied to my message about the Oates!

This could be Ann and some of the children in 1851.
piece 2022 folio 448 page 33
Walsall
Village of Bloxwich
Beer Shop
Thos Wootton Head Mar 38 Retail Brewer, born Staffordsh Bloxwich
Ann Wootton Wife Mar 38 Staffordsh Bloxwich
Charlott Wootton Daur 15 Staffordsh Bloxwich
Thos Wootton Son 9 Scholar Staffordsh Bloxwich
Frances F Wootton Daur 11 Scholar Staffordsh Bloxwich
Ann Wootton Daur 2 Staffordsh Bloxwich

Birth reg -
March 1849 Walsall vol 17 page 257
Wootton, Amy Ann
mother's maiden surname Emery
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Re: Massey Family

Postby ianbee » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:57 pm

Marriage, 22 April 1845, St Peter + St Paul, Aston
Thomas Wootton, full age, Bachelor, Bit Maker, residence Bloxwich
+
Ann Massey, full age, Spinster, Widow, residence Bloxwich, father William Emery, Bit Maker
witnessed by Charles Emery, Cary(?) Emery
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Re: Massey Family

Postby ianbee » Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:48 pm

There's quite a few Wootton baptisms at Bloxwich, parents Thomas + Ann
including
John Edward, 25 June 1851
Emma, 31 July 1853
Charles, 11 November 1855

Thomas Wootton seems to have died March quarter 1859, Walsall RD.
Buried at Bloxwich, 3 February, age 46.
Did Ann then marry for a third time, to a Wright?
Marriage, June 1860 Walsall 6b 726
Wootton, Ann
Wright, Moses

1861
piece 2012 folio 10 page 18
Walsall (Bloxwich)
New Inn
Ann Wright Head Mar 47, born Stafford Walsall Wood
John Wootton Son 9 Stafford Walsall Wood
Emma Wootton Daur 7 Stafford Walsall Wood
Chas Wootton Son 5 Stafford Walsall Wood

What is needed is the death of Thomas Massey prior to Ann's remarriage in Aston in 1845
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Re: Massey Family

Postby ClareBear » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:13 pm

Hello.
Thank you so much to everyone who has taken the time to help.
The Massey family and the Woottons are very much Bloxwich born and bred, and the info found has to be my lot. I will follow up all the info found, but some such as the children's marriages match my info.
I am thrilled by what has been found, this branch of the tree has proved a challenge over the years.
So a huge thank you to all who have helped, you are all brilliant!

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Re: Massey Family

Postby neergydna » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:19 pm

Hello

I have checked online on GRO Online but there is not an obvious death registration for Thomas Massey between 1841 and 1845. Also I have checked on FMP Staffordshire Burials without any obvious results. Lets hope somebody else finds this elusive death

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Re: Massey Family

Postby ciderdrinker » Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:49 am

Hi Sdup
Yes I know I was a bit slow replying about the Oates .But I did on Feb 26th.I haven't got a computer at home and I'm very sorry but I did take a while.Other things came up and I didn't make it to the Library .Thank you once again for your input.And apoligizes if you think I was being ungrateful.

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