Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:24 pm
MoVidger wrote:This might help with your search:
The SS Le Coq sailed from Port Arthur to the port of Norfolk, VA (arriving there in June 1920). Then in August 1920, it sailed from Norfolk to Bordeaux, France.
The vessel appears to have made very similar annual journeys like this a century ago. Usually loading up in Port Arthur, then stopping off in East Coast ports (e.g. Norfolk, Philadelphia, Newport, New York)) before travelling back to England or Europe.
In the case of my own relative, he appears in a similar manifest of alien passengers, arriving in New York during WW2. He worked on the SS Aquitania as a pantry cook. He never settled in the USA. He returned to the UK on the same ship. But anyone looking at that manifest now might assume he remained in the USA, which never happened.
Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:29 pm
Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:53 am
MoVidger wrote:There are a handful of maritime mentions for the SS Le Coq on the Newspapers.com website. The Le Coq is occasionally mentioned up to the early 1920s. Some US newspapers on the East Coast had a page devoted to shipping information, noting the arrivals and destinations of foreign steamers and tankers into their local ports, such as the SS Le Coq.
As for determining if your relative was still on the Le Coq when it departed for Norfolk, VA, I would imagine that would be difficult to confirm. Perhaps he only made the one overseas journey with the steamer in 1920, and remained on the vessel when it sailed to Bordeaux ??
Throughout 1921, the Le Coq appeared to journey to/from various ports such as Norfolk, New Orleans, Port Arthur, Balboa (Panama Canal), and in Wales. It's anyone's guess if your relative was still with the Le Coq in 1921 and beyond.
Good luck with your search. If you don't have a subscription for Newspapers.com, try googling for old monthly journals relating to shipping and oil transport, etc. There are several different journals which name-check the Le Coq circa 1920. One even mentions a boiler repair the vessel required at Falmouth in 1920 (??)
Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:46 pm
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Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:44 pm
Leigh Warren wrote:Is there any way of finding out if he was on the SS Le Coq when it left Port Arthur to the Port of Norfolk VA?
Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:33 pm
ianbee wrote:Leigh Warren wrote:Is there any way of finding out if he was on the SS Le Coq when it left Port Arthur to the Port of Norfolk VA?
We know that James Warren was intending to stay in the US when Le Coq arrived in Port Arthur 11 January 1920
But anyway, he is not on the manifest of alien crew members of Le Coq when it arrived at Newport, Virginia,
24 January 1920, from Texas
U.S., Select Crew Lists and Manifests, 1903-1962
Arrival Date: 24 Jan 1920
Arrival Place: Newport News, Virginia, USA
Port: Newport News
Ship: Le Coq
(bit of it attached here, and there is a second page)
Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:25 am
ianbee wrote:I am rather worried by this 1922 Arizona death record
and here (also ancestry)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1534450
The town is Jerome (a mining town)
died 16 June 1922
cause was Pulmonary tuberculosis
date of birth Dec 22 1900
age 21 yrs 5 mos 24 days
birthplace London England
no details for parents
Burial place Jerome Valley
http://www.apcrp.org/JEROME/1_Article_J ... 091411.htm
It's a great pity that the baptism record of William James Warren in 1901 did not give a date of birth. As he was said to be 3 months old on the 1901 census (taken 31 March) then December 1900 looks to be the likeliest month he would have been born.
But the CR10 card of James Warren said he was born November 1900, though it has the same day, the 22nd, as on the Arizona certificate.
One of these records at least seems to be wrong. Can't really say how accurate the info on that death record might be.