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Timothy PULMAN circ.1791-1858

Postby coopernicola » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:12 am

I'm struggling to locate Timothy Pulman (?Pulmer) 1791-1858, a Sloopman, in the 1851 Census.
From 1841 & 1861 the family appear to be wife Mary b1806, children Ann b1825, James b1827, Thomas b1829, Robert b1832, Mary b1832, Elizabeth b1834, Fanny b1840.
I have followed up most of the children in 1861 & beyond but can find no record of any in 1851. They appear to all be born in Hull, East Yorkshire and lived in & around Blanket Row (Thornham Sq, Bosun's Entry - both off Blanket Row), Hull.
I've tried Pullman/Pulmer (one son changes to this later on) & Palmer.
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Re: Timothy PULMAN circ.1791-1858

Postby carobradford » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:35 am

Have you tried a manual search of the area (the old fashioned way :)). The piece number is 2362.
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Re: Timothy PULMAN circ.1791-1858

Postby ianbee » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:12 am

Possibly one of the children in 1851
Fanny Pullman, 11, born Hull
Niece to Hannah Bennett, in Selby (piece 2351 folio 205 pages 36 + 37)
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Re: Timothy PULMAN circ.1791-1858

Postby ianbee » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:34 pm

Mary Pullman, 18, General Servt, born Hull
in Hull
piece 2362 folio 94 page 13
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Timothy PULMAN circ.1791-1858

Postby brunes08 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:55 pm

A 'sloopman' could suggest a few things. First, a sloop is a small, single masted, sailing boat used generally for local work - in the Hull area it could be used for all manner of things up and down the Humber and along the coast. So he could either have owned his own boat or was employed on one. Secondly, a Royal Navy sloop-of-war was just that - a warship. The possibility is that he was at sea when the census was taken. Have you looked to see if he was in the Royal Navy. Try the National Archives - I found a very detailed naval record for an ancestor.
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Re: Timothy PULMAN circ.1791-1858

Postby sdup26 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:08 pm

Not one of the family members you listed, but in case it's relevant:
Spencers Entry, Holy Trinity, Hull 1851, Richard Pulman aged 38, sloopman, born Knottingley, and wife Eliza aged 37.
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Timothy PULMAN circ.1791-1858

Postby coopernicola » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:55 pm

Thanks ianbee can't believe I missed those two! Sdup26: thanks for this I will follow up Richard as there may or may not be two families with a Timothy Pulman (one Hull & one Knottingley).
Brunes08: thanks for your input, but given the location it's likely he worked along the Rivers Hull & Humber on a Keel or barge style boat rather than Navy/Mct. Navy.
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Re: Timothy PULMAN circ.1791-1858

Postby ianbee » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:01 pm

Hi Nicola
If Timothy died in 1858, buried 14 March, Holy Trinity, Hull (on both records is aged 70)
Could this be him in the Register of Seamen’s Tickets (BT 113)
Timothy Pulman (looks a bit like Palman)
born Knottingley, York, 1 Jan 1787
capacity Riverman
first went to sea as a Boy in 1795
resides at Hull
issued at Hull 16 Jan 1845
has a description
Indexed on fmp as Palman, born 1797 (clearly says 1787)

The Richard found by sdup is interesting, might be the chap baptized at Knottingley in 1815, parents Timothy and Mary. Father a Waterman, I think.
So there may have been another Timothy?
If your man married Mary Broadley in Sculcoates in 1825, it says he was a Mariner, and a bachelor.

Hull Packet, 15 April 1859
On Monday evening a woman called Pulman, residing in Blanket-row, had her pocket picked of a purse containing 2s. 6d., while in Queen-street.
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Timothy PULMAN circ.1791-1858

Postby coopernicola » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:46 pm

Ian, you are indeed amazing! I too think there may be 2 Timothy's. On FamilySearch there is Timothy son of William (1787) and Timothy son of Thomas & Jane (1797+1798). Both bapt. in Pontefract so may both be from Knottingley area. I think mine may be the first. Great that you found his seaman's ticket as it looks as though there was trade along the waterways from Knottingley to Hull via the River Aire. The family where located in/off Blanket Row so the news clipping is likely to be related. Perhaps I need to get a short sub to FMP to explore some more.
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Edit: I also have tentatively got the Timothy Pulman & Mary Broadley marriage (which I can hopefully check out at my local archive next week). I suspect he may have been a widow at this marriage based in her dob and some of the children's ages on 1841 census.
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