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Postby fhb » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:56 pm

I'm researching a CHANDLER family.
I have them in the 1911 rg14_01015_0117_03 father Alfred (45 - b 1866) mother Kate (45 - b 1866) son Charles (21 - b 1890). They claim they were married 26 years before (in 1855).
I have them in the 1901 LNDRG13_204_205-0335 father Alfred (35 - b 1865) mother Kate (34 - b 1867) sons Frederick (16 - b 1885), George (14 - b 1887), Charles (11 - b 1890) plus brother-in-law Frederick BAMFIELD (33 - b 1868)
I have Alfred in the 1891 LNDRG12_179_181-0417 and LNDRG12_179_181-0416 with his brother Frederick and his brother's wife Kate.
From the above I note that in the 1891 Alfred says he is Single and as I cannot find a marriage of Alfred CHANDLER to a Kate around 1855 I am inclined to believe that their 1855 claim is a "marriage of convenience"
When Alfred died his youngest son Charles registered the death and stated that he was the Step-Son of Alfred. That says to me that the other two children were also step-sons as they are older than Charles.
So I believe that Alfred took on the previous children of Kate when they got together. On the 1901 Frederick BAMFIELD is stated to be the brother-in-law of Alfred so I believe that Kate is Kate Ellen BAMFIELD.
I cannot find a birth registrartion of the three boys, George (William Ernest), Frederick or Charles under CHNADLER or BAMFIELD or a variety of mispellings. Neither can I find a previous marriage for Kate Ellen BAMFIELD. And I cannot find the children nor Kate in the 1891.
One further problem is that the age of Frederick BAMFIELD of 33 in 1901 (1868) doesn't sit too well with the birth the brother of Kate Ellen in 1878.
I have a horrible feeling that I am mixing two families here!!
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Postby Jon Bauckham » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:37 pm

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Re: Missing !!

Postby sdup26 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:03 pm

As you say, in 1891, Frederick Chandler born c1865, lives with wife Kate E b1864, son Frederick L 1889, and brother Alfred 1867.
There's a marriage for Frederick Chandler to Kate Emma Brett, DQ 1887, 1b 829.
There's a baptism for a Frederick Leonard Chandler MQ 1889, Hackney, 1b 469.
In 1901, Frederick Chandler (working for the post office) lives with wife Kate Emma, son Frederick L, dau Kate D, mother-in-law Angelina Brett, and bro-in-law Frederick Brett.
In 1911, Frederick Chandler b1865 and still with the post office, lives in Islington with wife Kate Emma, son Frederick L b1889, and daughter Kate Dorothy b1894.
In 1891, Frederick and Alfred were said to be brothers. Have you found them together in 1871?
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Re: Missing !!

Postby ianbee » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:35 pm

Have them in 1891 as Maslin.
1 New Norfolk St, Shoreditch (piece 243 folio 76 page 17)
schedule 84
George Maslin Head M 33 Fishmonger, born London Bethnal Green
Gertrude Maslin Wife M 25 Kent Ashford
Fred Maslin Son 6 London Hackney
Wm Maslin Son 4 London Shoreditch
Chas Maslin Son 1

same address
schedule 85
Alfred Chandler Head S 25 Ryl Mail Driver London Middlesex

Marriage, 23 October 1884, Bethnal Green St Jude
George Cook Maslin, 27, Fishmonger
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Gertrude Kate Bamfield, 19, father John Henry Bamfield (deceased), Gas Fitter
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Re: Missing !!

Postby ianbee » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:07 pm

fhb wrote:I have Alfred in the 1891 LNDRG12_179_181-0417 and LNDRG12_179_181-0416 with his brother Frederick and his brother's wife Kate.

But he is also apparently in Shoreditch!
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Re: Missing !!

Postby fhb » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:09 am

I've got the Fredeick & Kate Emma marriage and children. Many thanks.

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Re: Missing !!

Postby fhb » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:13 am

Yes I saw that too!! However I came up from George William Ernest so your pointer to the MASLIN family was brilliant. I belive that the two Alfred Chandlers are one and the same but the MASKIN is notin doubt either way. Many thanks.

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