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Looking for info on Grace Bartram (1784-1837)

Postby MayHam » Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:59 am

Does anyone know how to obtain a copy of the following record?
I can't find any information other than I think she was born in Glasgow on 27 Jan 1784.
Can anyone help? Thank you.

Place: Bath, Somerset
Church name: Widcombe - St Thomas a Becket
Register type: Parish Register
Register entry number: 1234
Burial date: 26 Jan 1837
Person age: 53
Burial person forename: Grace
Burial person surname: BARTRAM
Burial person abode: Prior Park Buildgs
http://freereg2.freereg.org.uk/search_q ... 48c200121f
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Re: Looking for info on Grace Bartram (1784-1837)

Postby KayFarndon » Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:25 am

Why not just apply for the death certificate?
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Re: Looking for info on Grace Bartram (1784-1837)

Postby sdup26 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:41 am

Unfortunately, the death pre-dates September 1837, but the entry on freereg has all the information you'd get on a GRO death certificate, except for the name of the person registering the death. Is that what you want to know?
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Re: Looking for info on Grace Bartram (1784-1837)

Postby KayFarndon » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:50 am

My apologies MayHam and thanks sdup26, I did not read it carefully enough!
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Re: Looking for info on Grace Bartram (1784-1837)

Postby ciderdrinker » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:52 am

Hello
I'm sorry to say but you have two options.
Either you contact Somerset archives outside Taunton and ask for details of whether they will copy it for you and how much it will cost.
Somerset Heritage Centre,
Brunel Way,
Norton Fitzwarren,
Taunton,
TA2 6SF
01823 278805 (Enquiries)
01823 337600 (Appointments)
somersetarchives@swheritage.org.uk

Or you could go to your local Familysearch Library and they will order a copy pf the microfilm of the burials using the details you already have and you can see it there and presumably take a copy.
You have the details from Freereg so unfortunately a copy of the original isn't going to provide you with any more information.

Sorry
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Re: Looking for info on Grace Bartram (1784-1837)

Postby ianbee » Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:21 pm

Burial register should appear on ancestry eventually. Somerset, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1914, still a fairly new database, has the burial register starting September 1847. But nothing before. Look for updates.

And see the Bath Burial Index
https://www.batharchives.co.uk/cemeteri ... ce-bartram
Grace Bartram
Abode: Prior Park Buildings
Age: 53
Died: 20 Jan 1837
Buried: 26 Jan 1837
Cemetery: St Thomas à Becket and St Mark's, Widcombe
Plot Reference: O.A.25
Burial Register: T-1234
Monumental Inscription: Yes
Burial: Yes

Nice picture, and details of two others buried in the same plot.
Also,
St Thomas à Becket Memorial Inscriptions, Widcombe, Bath
https://www.batharchives.co.uk/sites/ba ... %20MIs.pdf
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Re: Looking for info on Grace Bartram (1784-1837)

Postby MayHam » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:56 pm

Thank you, All. I'm impressed!
I'm assuming by the burial dates that this was a communal grave?
I have no idea who John and Jane Brown are.
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Re: Looking for info on Grace Bartram (1784-1837)

Postby AdrianB38 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:50 pm

MayHam wrote:... I'm assuming by the burial dates that this was a communal grave? ...

Very much guesswork but... It doesn't feel communal to me. It has a gravestone over it (which I can't read) and I believe that doesn't normally happen with communal / public graves. The 2 Browns bracket Grace Bartram - and that's it. I'd expect a communal / public grave to run up to 4 or 6 burials, depending on ground conditions.

What's interesting is that all 3 live at Prior Park Buildings. I have seen odd combinations on a couple of occasions that seemed to imply that someone offered the use of their family grave to a friend or neighbour. That may be what happened here.
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Re: Looking for info on Grace Bartram (1784-1837)

Postby MayHam » Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:51 pm

That is interesting about friends/neighbours sharing a grave. BTW, I'm curious who Mrs. Jane Brown is?
I believe Grace's mother was also Jane (i.e. Jean,) but she died before 28 Oct 1792.
Would a single grave have been expensive because I don't think Grace was poor.

I searched the "England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858" for a will on Ancestry but didn't find anything. Is there any other place I could look?

Prior Park Buildings looks beautiful. I gather they are high-end apartments?
Thank you.
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Re: Looking for info on Grace Bartram (1784-1837)

Postby AdrianB38 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:49 pm

Re Wills - I am guessing that the default court for this area would be that for the Archdeaconry of Bath. What I don't know is where their wills went, because a lot of Somerset wills went to Exeter where they were destroyed along with many of the Devon in WW2.

There have been efforts to reconstruct at least some for Devon - I really don't know about Somerset.... Can anyone help???

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