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Maud Reeves, Birmingham

Postby Harroder » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:37 pm

My grandmother Maud Reeves was born on 5 September 1881 at 49 Moland St Birmingham the daughter of John Reeves, iron caster, and Minnie Reeves nee Kenney. Minnie registered the birth giving her address as 34 Baggot St.
Maud's parents married on 19 May 1881 in St Chads Cathedral, Birmingham. Details from the certificate show John Reeves, 25, iron caster, 35 Baggott St and Winifred Kenny, 20, 49 Moland St.
Maud had a daughter Elizabeth born in 1897 born in Birmingham according to 1911 census but no birth record found.
Maud married Charles Tongue in St Asaphs Church, Birmingham, on 29 June 1902 both giving their address as Bk 17 Bow St. On the 1901 census this is where their witnesses were living.
But I have not been able to find Maud in the 1891 or 1901 census. Elizabeth and Charles are also missing from the 1901 census.
Not sure that I have found the correct Winifred(Minnie) Kenn(e)y anywhere.

Can anyone find any info on Maud or Winifred? ( I know John Reeves died in 1884 & I have censuses 1861, 1871 & 1881 for him)
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Re: Maud Reeves, Birmingham

Postby sdup26 » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:43 pm

The names and ages could be a coincidence, but as Maud didn't marry Charles until 1902, I wonder if this could be her with her daughter?
1901 Bristol Street, Birmingham, household of Henry Lawley
Maud Clarke, boarder, single, carriage lamp japanner, b1881 Birmingham
Elizabeth Clarke, boarder, b1898 Birmingham
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Re: Maud Reeves, Birmingham

Postby carobradford » Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:03 pm

This birth registration might be interesting:

CLARK, ELIZABETH  MAUD  
Mother's maiden name REEVES  

GRO Reference: 1897  J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 84
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Re: Maud Reeves, Birmingham

Postby Harroder » Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:10 pm

That is interesting. I might send for the birth certificate for Maud Clark.
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Re: Maud Reeves, Birmingham

Postby carobradford » Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:57 pm

If you hurry, you can order a pdf via the GRO's current pilot programme for the slightly cheaper rate of £6.
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Re: Maud Reeves, Birmingham

Postby Harroder » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:54 pm

I've sent for the certificate. Should arrive on the 16th.
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Re: Maud Reeves, Birmingham

Postby Harroder » Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:32 pm

Certificate arrived today and the Elizabeth Maud Clark is the daughter of Maud Clark previously Reeves. The birth was registered by Maud's mother Minnie Reeves. This is wonderful - I've been trying to find Minnie and Maud for years. But it just raises another problem - I cannot find a marriage between a Maud Reeves and a George Clark(e). Also Maud is on the 1901 census as single and she married my grandfather in 1902 as Maud Reeves - spinster.
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Re: Maud Reeves, Birmingham

Postby sdup26 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:40 am

On Elizabeth's 1897 birth certificate, father is George Clark, and Maud is Clark, formerly Reeves, as if married. Note that the person supplying this information wasn't Maud, but her mother. On the 1901 census, Maud's surname is Clarke, but she describes herself as single - not widow. In 1902, she marries Charles as a spinster. In the absence of a Clark-Reeves marriage, you may have to consider the possibility that Elizabeth's father was George Clark, but there was no marriage, and his details were on the birth certificate as Minnie's scandal-avoiding tactic.
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Re: Maud Reeves, Birmingham

Postby Harroder » Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:55 pm

That thought had occurred to me. I had a look on the 1901 census for a likely George Clark and found one in prison in Birmingham, from Ireland age 21, a brassware maker- filer. George Clark's occupation on the birth certificate is given as brass finisher which sounds similar. No way to tell though but at least I have now traced my grandmother in 1901.
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