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William Hawkins - Publican The Red Lion 1795-1823

Postby rfitzgerald1963 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:13 pm

Another puzzle, my 4x Great Grandfather was William Hawkins, daughter (illegitimate) Caroline Judith Hawkins Ballard, married my 3x Great Grandfather William Henry Parker. now i know that William Hawkins ran The Red Lion public house in Parliament street, opposite the houses of parliament from 1795 till his death in 1823, and he owned the building. i have the rates records and a couple of pieces in the newspapers after his death. but in nothing i can find does it say where he came from, who his parents were or much else. all i know is he was a bit of a lad... he was married and have 1 daughter Elizabeth, but then in his will he left annuities for two different women and each of their 4 children, (I am assuming they were his his) I know all the children from my 4x Great Grandmother (Mary Ann Ballard 1792-??) were as i have the baptism records but wondered if anyone had any other information on William as he seems an interesting fellow.


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Re: William Hawkins - Publican The Red Lion 1795-1823

Postby JaneyH » Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:52 pm

While I can't help your family history research directly, I should point out that the Red Lion pub is around the corner from the Houses of Parliament. The only place opposite is what is now the Supreme Court ... or St Thomas' Hospital across river.

Let me know if you'd like a photo - I walk past it every day to/from my office.


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Re: William Hawkins - Publican The Red Lion 1795-1823

Postby rfitzgerald1963 » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:55 am

Hi Yes sorry The Red Lion was on the corner of Parliament Street & Derby Street. i know the current building is from much later but if you could get a picture that would be great at some point when i get back to the UK i intend to go have a pint in that pub :D :D
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Re: William Hawkins - Publican The Red Lion 1795-1823

Postby JaneyH » Sat Aug 27, 2016 9:58 am

Happy to take the photo for you. We're away at the moment, but I'm back at work early September. I'm sure it'll be a special experience to have a drink in a pub formerly owned by one of your ancestors, even if it is filled with politicians and tourists! [SMILING FACE WITH OPEN MOUTH AND TIGHTLY-CLOSED EYES]


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William Hawkins - Publican The Red Lion 1795-1823

Postby Mick Loney » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:13 am

You might like the internal photos on the Trip Advisor website, which also has reviews of the pub ( see https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restauran ... gland.html).

You also get a good street level view via google earth.

PS it is now Derby Gate, not Derby Street

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Re: William Hawkins - Publican The Red Lion 1795-1823

Postby rfitzgerald1963 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:03 am

I have managed to find a transcript of William's full will which was detailed in a court case and his family life is VERY complicated it appears he had a wife - but she died and he does not list her name but leaves a bequest to and L Bromley in memory of her, he lists one daughter - Mary Ann Wisehart, but i can't find a record of any one either born with this name or marrying a wisehart... he then leaves bequests to an Elizabeth Luckhurst & her 3 children (I am assuming they are his) and the remainder is left to Mary Ann Ballard - my 4x great grandmother, I know 3 children, Edward 1819, Caroline 1820 & Jane 1822 but can't find the details of the fourth child who must have been born before 1822 as this is when the will was written. I have attached the newspaper report in the hope that someone can help with this.


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Re: William Hawkins - Publican The Red Lion 1795-1823

Postby ianbee » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:18 am

The will was proved in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury
See it on ancestry (all free today if you are registered), starting here -
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/5111/ ... 0385-00593
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Re: William Hawkins - Publican The Red Lion 1795-1823

Postby rfitzgerald1963 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:40 am

Thanks Ianbee, that is amazing. I have the full will of my 4x great grandfather. i think i am learning more about him than i know about my Grandads, :( :o :D

its a bit difficult to read but looks really interesting
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Re: William Hawkins - Publican The Red Lion 1795-1823

Postby ianbee » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:02 am

Hi
Re Wisehart marriage, all I have found is -
28 January 1808 at St Paul Hammersmith
Thomas Wiseheart
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Mary Hawkins

There are these burials within a few months at Morden, Surrey
20 April 1832, Thomas Wiseheart, age 48
24 August 1832, Mary Ann Wiseheart, age 48
abode for both Mordon

PCC will for Mary Ann Hawkins
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/5111/ ... rchResults

Short and sweet, mentions a Joseph Hawkins in Westminster. So this may all be way off beam
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Re: William Hawkins - Publican The Red Lion 1795-1823

Postby rfitzgerald1963 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:44 am

Thanks Ianbee, that allows me to sort out that piece. shame it doe not see to have details of her mother on anything as that might help me to them down to a location
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