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Re: James Rawes Parker - 1788-1843

Postby ianbee » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:52 pm

I don't know about the Hereford connection, obviously that person seems to have been well off. It's in the same year as the Gazette article, that's all.
We are casting around at the moment!

Do you know what happened to Mary, when did she die? Or could she have remarried? When did James and Mary start having children, to help narrow down the time frame for a marriage.

The Mechanics' Magazine, Museum, Register, Journal, and Gazette, Volume 34
London Fires in 1840
March 16, 10 1/4 p. m. Mr. Parker, pocket-book maker, 18, Old Fish-street, Doctor's Commons. The fire commenced in the attic story of a high building, occupied as workshops, the whole of which, with the roof, was enveloped in flames almost as soon as discovered. Firemen and engines from the adjacent stations were soon in attendance, and by carrying the leather hose up stairs, they succeeded after an arduous struggle in confining the damage to the floor on which it commenced.
Ian

EDIT He may have been in the Fleet Prison in 1820 as an Insolvent Debtor.
On the face of it he doesn't seem to be the man of the same name auctioning his books in Hereford!
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Re: James Rawes Parker - 1788-1843

Postby ksouthall » Wed Aug 24, 2016 5:01 pm

Did James and Mary Ann have a son called James Rawes Parker, born in London in 1841? If so, you could order his birth certificate, reference below, in order to obtain Mary Ann's maiden name:-

Name: James Rawes Parker
Registration Year: 1841
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: St Luke
Inferred County: London
Volume: 2
Page: 255

Certificates can be ordered from GRO:- https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/cert ... /Login.asp
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Re: James Rawes Parker - 1788-1843

Postby ksouthall » Wed Aug 24, 2016 5:25 pm

I've just checked and it looks like the birth reference for 1841 refers to the son of a Caroline Parker who was a widow in 1851, so probably not the son of James Rawes Parker, born in 1788.
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Re: James Rawes Parker - 1788-1843

Postby rfitzgerald1963 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:42 pm

The 1841 James Rawes is the Grandson of the one I am trying to sort out. on the 1841 Census my family are in Old fish street so think the fire story does relate to him. James's son was William Henry Parker born November 1817. not sure about the cabinet maker in Lambeth as my James Rawes in 1840 was a pocket book maker not a cabinet maker (on the wedding record he is a travelling case maker) which again makes it seem unlikely that this is the same person would need to see where the book seller lived if its possible to find that out to check.

The insolvent Debtor where did this come from? would seem odd as his son Married Caroline Judith Ballard, Hawkins the daughter of William Hawkins that ran a very successful business in Westminster (The Red Lion, in Parliament Street) but in my family tree anything is possible
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Re: James Rawes Parker - 1788-1843

Postby jimbo50 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:25 am

ianbee wrote:Could this Warwickshire marriage be connected?
George Parker + Elizabeth Rawes
6th February 1786, Saint Michael, Coventry


Is Ianbee's suggestion ruled out ? It seems very likely as a source for his name. Then a James Parker marries Mary Ann Thave on 8th July 1816 at same church.
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Re: James Rawes Parker - 1788-1843

Postby rfitzgerald1963 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:46 pm

it could very well be, but everything I have found so far says the family are southerners, how would I check?
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Re: James Rawes Parker - 1788-1843

Postby jimbo50 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:27 pm

Hiya. What about the 1841 census ?
'' The 1841 census says they are 53 and 45 and neither from the city.
Ciderdrinker''
I had similar in mine, East End through and through for generations, but the 3 x Greats in the 1820s turned out to have moved to Kingston Surrey from Kirkcudbrightshire Scotland, with 2 really young children. Jim
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Re: James Rawes Parker - 1788-1843

Postby ksouthall » Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:44 pm

jimbo50 wrote:
ianbee wrote:Could this Warwickshire marriage be connected?
George Parker + Elizabeth Rawes
6th February 1786, Saint Michael, Coventry


Is Ianbee's suggestion ruled out ? It seems very likely as a source for his name. Then a James Parker marries Mary Ann Thave on 8th July 1816 at same church.


I agree with Ianbee and Jimbo. I think this marriage is the source of the Rawes Parker name combination. One of my ancestors, John Woollatt married Katherine Siddon. Their grandson, my great-great-great-grandfather was called George Siddon Woollatt as a result. He was born in 1808 in Hertfordshire but his parents were from Derbyshire. The name combination helped me to trace his family back to Derbyshire.
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Re: James Rawes Parker - 1788-1843

Postby rfitzgerald1963 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:15 pm

could be right, the family history does show many of them moving around a lot and some did go back to yorkshire, need to try to find proof but not sure how?? any idea's?
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Re: James Rawes Parker - 1788-1843

Postby ianbee » Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:20 am

Baptisms at St Mary Lambeth
2 January 1814
George, born 21st October 1810
Mary Ann, born 20th June 1813
parents James Rawes and Mary Ann Parker
abode Marsh
father a Pocket Book Maker

3 August 1817 - not conncted
Elizabeth
parents James and Mary Parker
abode Work house
father a Cabinet maker

20 November (1819) 1817 (sorry, I had the year wrong, is in fact 1817)
William Henry
parents James Raws and Mary Ann Parker
abode Marsh
father a Pocket Book Maker
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