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Irish Grandfather

Postby Shirl » Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:27 am

Hi, The only info I have of my Grandfather James Richard Whelan is from family knowledge, which is very poor, and his marriage certificate to my Grandmother Frances Margot Chandler. Her name was Ramsay at marriage as her 1st husband was killed in WW1.
James & Frances married 2nd March 1920 Alton Hampshire. It states he was a Driver with RFA. Living as an agricultural labourer at Headley Mill Farm. His father was Richard Whelan. He was born 1895 Ireland.
Their son , my dad has passed away but he had no memory of his father as the marriage was rather turbulent. My mother says he went home to Ireland ? Waterford. He had a sister Gladys and Brother Maurice who was apparently a policeman in UK. These are family facts which are questionable. My 94 year old mother can only tell me facts that my Grandmother told her.

I know my fathers family came from Headley and I have quite extensive research of the Chandlers. I have discovered that WW1 army regiments were based at Bordon. My thoughts are if I can locate him via his war records I can discover his place of birth etc. It is the 'Whelan' side that I have so little knowledge.
Any thoughts or help would be gratefully received

Any ideas
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Re: Irish Grandfather

Postby ianbee » Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:59 am

From your family info, a possible in 1901 Ireland census?
William Street, Portlaw, Waterford
Richard Whelan 37
Hanorah Whelan 36
Bridget Whelan 12
Mary Whelan 9
James Whelan 8
Maurice Whelan 5
Hanorah Whelan 1

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... t/1768504/

Household image here
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/r ... 001242344/
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Re: Irish Grandfather

Postby ianbee » Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:07 am

1923 and 1924 electoral registers have James Richard Whelan at Standford Hill, Headley, Hampshire.
Not listed 1925
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Re: Irish Grandfather

Postby sdup26 » Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:08 am

Further to what ianbee says, there are 7 Richard Whelans in the 1901 Waterford census, only one with a son called James. That's at William Street, Waterford. Incidentally, the 1911 census shows both Hanorah's, wife and daughter, as 'Norah.'

I've tried searching 1901 and 1911 for a Gladys Whelan, any age, any county, and nothing came up. Possibly she was the eldest and had moved away to work (to England?) or had married, so is listed wih a different surname. I can't find James on the 1911 Waterford census.
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Re: Irish Grandfather

Postby Shirl » Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:27 pm

Hi
Thanks so much. The electoral roll has to be him. I do know that by the time my father was a toddler his father had left. My dad being born 1921. So these dates do work out. What a twit I am....never thought of electoral roll.
I will look at the 1901 census Waterford and see if I can cross reference.

Thanks again
Shirley
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Re: Irish Grandfather

Postby peter kent » Sat Aug 20, 2016 6:41 am

If he was still in the army in 1920, he may have been a regular. When was your dad born and what was shown on the birth certificate as the father's occupation?

If he was still in the army after 1920, his army records would still be with the Ministry of Defence. You could apply for a copy

https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records
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Re: Irish Grandfather

Postby Shirl » Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:44 pm

Thanks Peter

According to the marriage certificate he was by 1920 an agricultural labourer.
Many thanks
Shirley
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Re: Irish Grandfather

Postby AdrianB38 » Sun Aug 21, 2016 4:28 pm

Sorry - which bit says that he was a driver with the RFA then? What's the phrasing used and where? Sorry to sound pedantic but we need all the clues we can get!
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