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Re: Thomas Henry Marshall of Great Yarmouth.

Postby sdup26 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:56 pm

That's interesting. The bigamous marriage was in 1887, but two years before, Banns were read in the Parish of St Nicholas, Norwich, on 20th & 27th Sept, and 4th Oct, 1885, between Thomas Henry Marshall and Miriam Bone. Are you planning to send for the marriage certificate? It would be interesting to see if Thomas gives his father's name and occupation, or tells a few fibs. And I wonder who tipped off the authorities?
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Re: Thomas Henry Marshall of Great Yarmouth.

Postby midshipman » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:30 pm

Been trying to discover more about Miriam Bone. Hit a bit of a wall though. I saw the 1885 Great Yarmouth marriage banns on Find My Past. Had hoped to discover Miriam's fathers name.
Yes I think applying for the 1887 Norwich marriage certificate would be very interesting and solve a mystery.
Thanks again sdup26.

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Re: Thomas Henry Marshall of Great Yarmouth.

Postby sdup26 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:26 pm

Hopefully, the marriage cert will give you Miriam's father's name. I had a go at births/baptisms in Norfolk with no luck, although there are a couple of Norfolk census entries (1871/1881) for a Mary M Bone - try saying it quickly. But Thomas's Miriam could have been born outside the county. Do let us know what the certificate says.
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Re: Thomas Henry Marshall of Great Yarmouth.

Postby midshipman » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:59 am

Tried various combinations of Mary M Bone etc without success. Wondered if Miriam Bone was Scottish. Believe many Scottish girls came to Great Yarmouth to help in the fishing industry. The bigamous marriage in February 1887 makes me also wonder about the birth and death of baby Miriam Bone in Middlesbrough in October 1887.

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Re: Thomas Henry Marshall of Great Yarmouth.

Postby sdup26 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:12 am

Not sure about that one - Miriam Bone was born Sept 1887 in Middlesbrough, mother Isabel, no father named. Then there's a death for Miriam Bone in Oct 1887 aged 0, also in M'boro, so probably the same baby.
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Re: Thomas Henry Marshall of Great Yarmouth.

Postby midshipman » Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:34 am

Thanks again sdup26.
As previously stated only the bigamous marriage certificate can solve this mystery. Will let you know what I discover.

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Re: Thomas Henry Marshall of Great Yarmouth.

Postby midshipman » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:26 pm

Whilst I wait the 3 weeks the ordered marriage certificate will take to arrive I wondered if anyone can please help with Thomas Henry Marshall's first wife.
Emma Patience Penn became Marshall in 1871 and Neal in 1903.
Tried searching without success for Emma Patience Neal and wondered if she and husband Alfred Neal had emigrated.

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Re: Thomas Henry Marshall of Great Yarmouth.

Postby sdup26 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:41 am

The 1901 census shows Alfred Neal aged 53, wife Emma 50, and son Alfred 7, living in Great Yarmouth, but I can't find them together after that. There's a death for an Emma Neale aged 56 (born c1850) SQ 1906, Yarmouth 4b 12, and it may be worth sending for the death cert.

As an outside bet, there's a death for an Alfred Neale aged 54, JQ 1909, Docking 4b 180.

There's also an Alfred E Neale aged 15, an inmate in the workhouse, Norfolk, in 1911. This would seem to fit if both parents had died, but did your Alfred jnr have the middle name Ernest?
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Re: Thomas Henry Marshall of Great Yarmouth.

Postby midshipman » Thu Jun 30, 2016 2:54 pm

Many thanks sdup26
Been looking at surname Neale rather than Neal but not found anything that fits other than possibly Emma's death. The son Alfred I have not found birth record yet. Tried different surnames that his mother use.

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Re: Thomas Henry Marshall of Great Yarmouth.

Postby sdup26 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:50 pm

I found this while searching for Emma.
Crime and Punishment Records FMP: Great Yarmouth 1873. Emma Marshall aged 22 (b1851) "threw the corrosive liquid known as vitriol on Thomas Marshall, with the intent of causing him grievous bodily harm." She was found guilty, and sentenced to 18 months imprisonment.
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