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In-service details for Herbert Bouchard

Wed May 25, 2016 6:56 pm

I have found medal index cards for my grandfather, David Herbert Bouchard (b 1879), who in life simply called himself Herbert Bouchard (or sometimes, just H).

The details I have are twofold:

2nd Boer War (1899-1902) Reg. No. 2961 corporal with AOC; Roll No. W0100233 (on Ancestry and FmP). Served in Cape Colony; Orange Free State, and Transvaal; + Awarded South Africa Medal + clasp;


WWI Acting Staff Sergeant with RASC Reg No. M2183656; Roll W0372/2 225768 (on Ancestry and FmP); Victory and British Medals, Campaign Medal Cards and Silver War Badge Cards. TNA image link D1411899.

TNA offer a downloadable image link but will this tell me any more than I have found already?

Can anyone suggest where I might find some ‘colour’ to add to these bare records like his military input, what and where did those regiments operate. Ancestry sometimes have WWI Service Records that include attestation papers, etc, but not as far as I can see for this man. Maybe they just didn't survive?

I have not found any medals for this man, yet! Nor photos in uniform.
Herbert Bouchard Army Record 1.jpg
Herbert Bouchard Army Record 1.jpg (104.56 KiB) Viewed 1388 times
Herbert Bouchard Army lists 2.jpg
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Re: In-service details for Herbert Bouchard

Wed May 25, 2016 10:00 pm

Assuming that the image link in question is the one for the Medal (Index) Card, then no - you already have the Medal Index Card in its Ancestry format, which is (a) in colour (b) has both sides and (c) has not had its contrast tweaked halfway to illegibility.

Tip - always use the Ancestry Medal Index Cards if you can. They are later images of the originals, which are now held by the Western Front Association. By all means find details from Discovery to prove it's there or find out what spelling is used, but get the Ancestry version if you can.

Re: In-service details for Herbert Bouchard

Wed May 25, 2016 10:10 pm

As for research, go to http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/ to understand what can be done and find out a bit about the ASC. Without some closer details of his unit, all that can be said is that he was something to do with Motor Transport - that's what the M2 prefix is used for - see http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/soldiers/a-soldiers-life-1914-1918/letter-prefixes-to-british-soldiers-numbers-in-the-first-world-war/

Don't know anything about the Boer War, I'm afraid.

Re: In-service details for Herbert Bouchard

Thu May 26, 2016 5:56 am

AngoBoerWar.com is a comprehensive website about the Boer War. It also has a Forum attached to it.

AOC would be Army Ordnance Corps


Re: In-service details for Herbert Bouchard

Thu May 26, 2016 7:56 am

The important question is...Did he stay in the army after WW1 as a regular?

If he did, his service record is still with MoD and you can apply for copy.

If not and you can't find a service record in Ancestry (burnt records or pension records), they can be presumed not to have survived.

Re: In-service details for Herbert Bouchard

Thu May 26, 2016 9:47 am

There are several spreadsheets on https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/foi-responses-released-by-mod-week-commencing-1-december-2014 containing an MoD compiled index to all soldiers born earlier than some date in 1901, whose papers are known to be held by the MoD.

The only Bouchards in there are Bouchard WH, born 1877/07/21 (an officer) and Bouchard FC, born 1891/11/04, from the RE.
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