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marriage in the late 1700's

Postby owenlee4me » Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:00 pm

I am well stuck!
found my ancestor baptism, checked with Bishop transcripts so it should be correct, but I cannot find a marriage for the parents and it's as if they did not exist.

What can I do,
William BArrowfoot bapt Feb 1796 Bishop Middleham, parents John and Jane
That is my brick wall, I cannot see how I can get back.

BArrowfoot is actually transcribed a few ways, and William BArrowfoot in his army must list, is recorded as Barresford, Barrowsford, Barrowfoot, his family are registered as BEresford (various spelling)
But I really am stuck, any ideas?

I would appreciate it

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Re: marriage in the late 1700's

Postby sdup26 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:37 pm

Bishop Middleham Marriages are at http://www.genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/Transcri ... R/BMI.html

If you have no luck with your search, try contacting the Northumberland and Durham Family History Society.
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Re: marriage in the late 1700's

Postby Mick Loney » Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:15 pm

Remember, Bishop Transcripts can add an extra layer with potential for errors to creep in. The vicar copies the original register, and in doing this, errors in copying do occur. Try to check with original register if at all possible.


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Re: marriage in the late 1700's

Postby meekhcs » Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:33 pm

From genuki marriages via dustydocs there is a marriage in Bishop Middleham 9 July 1795 between Ralph Barrowfoot and Jane Tindale. Worth checking parish register for this date in case a transcription error has occurred.
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Re: marriage in the late 1700's

Postby ciderdrinker » Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:43 pm

Yes I agree
The only other Barrowfoots in Bishop Middleham are all to Ralph and his two wives called Jane.
Thomas 19.11.1782
Ralph 16.10.1785
Edward 7.1.1798
Ann and David twins 31.7.1803
Hannah 1.3.1806
Eliza 23.9/23.10 1808 17th child of Ralph 7th by 2nd wife Jane
Isabele 19.5./4..4.1811 10th daughter 19 th child
wife Jane buried 13.7.1791

there is a possible other daughter Jane 13.8.1780 at Sedgefield Mordon Moor House.

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Re: marriage in the late 1700's

Postby D-F » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:30 pm

I would agree with getting back to the original parish records as well as the Bishops Transcripts.

A number of years ago (In Cumbria) I found that:
Sometimes the BTs only contained some of the information in the Parish Registers (effectively just a summary of each event).
(e.g. Parish Register says (but not in Transcript): "a poor women of this parish" Kirklinton Burial 1776-07-23)

Other times the BTs contained more information! Sometimes scurrilous "marginal notes" about some of the parties concerned, other times just extra detail.
(e.g. Bishop's Transcript adds "of Walter, Farmer, late Scaleby" Scaleby Hill Burials 1771-04-22)
Can't find an example of a "scurrilous comment" - might not have been about a member of my family so I did not record it - I seem to remember it commented on the morals of the mother!

Moral: try to read both!

The other aspect to be aware of when reading the Bishops Transcripts: Are you reading the transcripts of that time or a more recent transcript of the transcripts (done for instance by a local family history society). Transcripts of Transcripts have even greater scope for error!
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Re: marriage in the late 1700's

Postby owenlee4me » Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:29 pm

HI folks
Thanks for your suggestions, I was thinking that the name of John was wrong and was perhaps Ralph, seems strange all other "bits fit".
I had hope the BT was going to say "Ralph and Jane"

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Re: marriage in the late 1700's

Postby owenlee4me » Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:31 pm

I think we have all been on the same wavelength.
I was beginning to think that the Marriage for Ralph B to Jane Tindal should have been John. I acutally checked this myself, then asked (very nicely) if Durham County Hall would mind having a quick look.

So if the Parish Clerk wrote the correct name, then it's Ralph and not JOhn.

The only other clue I have is, William Barrowfoots son had a small obit in the Newspaper when he died, and it said he was of Scottish parents, which would imply William was born Scotland, and because William was in the 91st foot (a Scottish regiment) this seemed possible, until I followed his arrmy Muster list, and it gave his place of birth as Houghton le Spring.
He joined the Durham MIlitia before he changed over to the 91st foot, seems the army sent men out to enlist men all over the country.

Question? why did it say in his GRandson JOhn obit that John was of Scottish parents?

Some clues but still can't find William's birth!!
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marriage in the late 1700's

Postby SoozOne » Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:00 am

I think an obit saying he had Scottish parents doesn't necessarily mean he too was born in Scotland, only that that his parents originally came from across the border.
He may well have been posted - or requested a posting - to the Scots regiment because of his direct ancestry.


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marriage in the late 1700's

Postby Mick Loney » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:22 am

If his parents were Scottish it could just mean their family, in the broader sense were from Scotland. They themselves could have been born and married anywhere so doesn't help you finding out where he was born.


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